# What the hell has happened to some of my friends?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 14, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839 "2012-05-14T03:40:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/41 "2012-05-14T16:44:55Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> That’s, uh, not very flattering towards women.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Latin culture being insensitive to women? Dios mio!

As **Mighty\_Girl** and **grama** said, the line refers to people, not to women. It’s not a case of Latin culture being insensitive to women, the only people who are being offended here are those whose minds are overly literal or who feel the need to look down on others.

Please, stop being offended in our behalf, ok?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/42 "2012-05-14T16:56:38Z")

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In Spain, cows are revered as gods.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/43 "2012-05-14T17:13:24Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> And **Tripolar** , I think the world is vastly safer and better now than it was 20 years ago. I wish I were young now, although I am fine with my age. It is a wondrous time to be young. I just don’t see these dangers they see everywhere.

I was referring mainly to the economic instability, but I don’t see how the world is safer now than in 1992. But I am old, and perhaps turning pessimistic (more pessimistic actually). However, on a rational basis instead of an emotional one, I agree, it is a wondrous time to be young.

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/44 "2012-05-14T17:39:07Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> And **Tripolar** , I think the world is vastly safer and better now than it was 20 years ago.

It is. Violent crime is way down compared to 20 years ago, at least in the US. News coverage of crime is not, though, so it doesn’t look like it. Fewer people are being killed by drunk drivers. I’m not as likely to have to tell my daughter that one of her classmates was killed by a drunk driver, the way my mother had to when I was in elementary school.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/45 "2012-05-14T17:40:01Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> In Spain, cows are revered as gods.

Oh yes, they get the [red carpet](http://www.stagsandhens.com/images/activities/bullfight.jpg) treatment and everything.

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/46 "2012-05-14T18:34:55Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I noticed this often in my 20s. I don’t think children have to enter the picture to cause this effect. After the Vietnam was ended, hordes of communists and anarchists put on suits and became accountants and lawyers. Any number of people living a bohemian lifestyle suddenly became uptight 50s style conformists. I do know plenty of people who found happy middle ground, and some who seemed to have never matured at all, or even regressed over time. But it’s the 180 degree skewing of lifestyle choices that confuses me. Perhaps they had that undeveloped medulla oblongata or whatever causes thoughtless impulsive behavior, and upon development of a complete brain considered everything that went before in the category of youthful indiscretion, which they now cannot recall. Or perhaps that part of the brain does not function when clouded by a constant flood of alchohol, THC, and cocaine, and upon finding something more important than working everyfor the weekend they revert to their natural state. But in the end, it is only the gross hypocrisy that bothers me. They shouldn’t rant about the next generation doing what they’ve done themselves. Especially because once again we have a generation of youth whose lives will be seriously impacted because of the way the world was fucked up by their parents. In fact, we had it easy, they have the burden of taking out our trash.

True dat!.. Just read an article in the Chicago Sun times.. [http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/12472021-452/sagging-pants-disgusting-but-can-government-really-do-anything.html](http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/12472021-452/sagging-pants-disgusting-but-can-government-really-do-anything.html)  
Okay.. it’s stupid and annoying to look at.. but I remember time ago when if an employer asked you to cut off your afro (relax your hair) people freaked out.. And to quote Hendrix.."If the hippies cut off all their hair.. i don’t care..  
Every generation finds the next and the next doing amazingly silly annoying things.. I actually find my 15yr old son and his friends to be a calculating totally too realistic bunch.. kids are tight as hell.. The only things that grate my nerves is the pants and that damn strip club rap music.. but.. hey.. My father hated Schooly D and threw away my Dead Kennedy’s album.. I have told my son that while he is free to grow his dreads.. they’ll come a time and place where he’ll have to make some hard choices about his hairstyle..

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/47 "2012-05-14T19:02:06Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> As **Mighty\_Girl** and **grama** said, the line refers to people, not to women. It’s not a case of Latin culture being insensitive to women, the only people who are being offended here are those whose minds are overly literal or who feel the need to look down on others.
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> Please, stop being offended in our behalf, ok?

I’m not particularly offended; it just sounded not very flattering in English (a typical English statement might be something like, “I can’t believe that cow I work with! She’s constantly bugging me!”). I have no problem with something being lost in the translation. 🙂

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/48 "2012-05-14T19:44:16Z")

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Meh! You’ve got me on there – so just let me know who (and when) you want me to go all immoral on their ass!

Seriously though, I feel for you – I’ve had the same shit happen to me with many a friend. But then you have the _other_ extreme, decrepit fucks such as myself picking-up girls almost a third their age and then _bragging_ about it. These idiots don’t realize it’s their wallet doing the “seducing” and little blue pills doing most of the “loving”? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/49 "2012-05-14T19:46:21Z")

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Well, a lust for money is a very common way to compensate for the “hamster dick” syndrome.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/50 "2012-05-14T19:49:15Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I want to be a woman, damnit! ☹

Me too, but they refuse to do the operation.

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**Author:** ![Commander\_Fortune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Commander\_Fortune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Commander_Fortune)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/51 "2012-05-14T20:22:11Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> That’s one thing I \*like \*about Facebook. You get to see that one girl that was the cool cheerleader dropped out of college after geeting knocked up and married the guy she thinks is the dad who works at Walmart.

Man, I am\* SO \*with you on this.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/52 "2012-05-14T20:30:13Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Meh! You’ve got me on there – so just let me know who (and when) you want me to go all immoral on their ass!
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> Seriously though, I feel for you – I’ve had the same shit happen to me with many a friend. But then you have the _other_ extreme, decrepit fucks such as myself picking-up girls almost a third their age and then _bragging_ about it. These idiots don’t realize it’s their wallet doing the “seducing” and little blue pills doing most of the “loving”? :dubious:

Or as a good friend calls it “a pocket full of personality”. 😃  
For some reason I just can’t respect someone that is worrying about her 6 year old and condoms, and complaining about violence in video games. We don’t even know what they will use in 34 years when my daughter becomes sexually active (;)). That is a bit premature. And if it hadn’t been for condoms those 6 year olds could be 20 instead (perish the thought!). And my husband plays extremely violent video games. As long as he doesn’t play in front of our kid (he agrees it is not appropriate) I have absolutely no problem with them. They want everybody to stop having fun. The same fun they once had.

My daughter is going to get the straight dope, a good dose of common sense and I will just cross my fingers and toes and hope for the best.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/53 "2012-05-14T23:14:49Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> … My daughter is going to get the straight dope, a good dose of common sense and I will just cross my fingers and toes and hope for the best.

Good for you! I’m fairly prudish (ex-hippie nihilist, born-again Christian; I _should_ be a moral dickhead), but y’know what? Those are MY values, not something I have the right to force on my kids.

I just told my daughter “Treat people with respect, and frat guys with scorn. You know more about choices and protection than we did, and you can always come to me or your mom with questions.”

Her reply? “Thanks, dad, but I doubt you guys’ll ever know.”

ETA: (To which I said "_Pheeeew"_ and wiped my brow.)

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-has-happened-to-some-of-my-friends/621839/54 "2012-05-15T00:39:39Z")

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**Mighty\_Girl** –I think you need to post this rant on Facebook.

Really.

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