# What the Hell?! They're Bombing London! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 7, 2005, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437 "2005-07-07T09:50:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/41 "2005-07-07T12:55:20Z")
Here’s a link to a story posted 11 minutes ago: [Four Blasts Hit London](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_eu/britain_explosion_43) ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/42 "2005-07-07T12:57:23Z")
Number of injured appears to be rising, but thankfuly the number of dead is staying at 2 or 3 > [@](#): > > More than 182 casualties and one of the dead were taken to the Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel, but 123 people have since been released. The city’s St Mary’s Hospital said it was dealing with 26 injured people, including four with critical injuries and eight in a serious condition. [From the BBC](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm) ---
**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/43 "2005-07-07T13:02:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Denmark? A crusader government? It’s an early translation. “Crusader government” is probably actually meant to be closer to “Supporting governemts of the war” in English. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/44 "2005-07-07T13:03:56Z")
Updated story: [40 dead, 300 injured](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050707/ap_on_re_eu/britain_explosion;_ylt=AlDUihLtQFp5IEERUYetbZes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--) ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RumMunkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RumMunkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RumMunkey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/45 "2005-07-07T13:10:17Z")
I’m not trusting _any_ of these death tolsl thus far. It will be at least another 10 or so hours before we start getting anything even close to reliable. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/46 "2005-07-07T13:13:59Z")
40 confirmed dead, just now. NBC TV. I can’t believe this, it’s becoming like a movie. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/47 "2005-07-07T13:17:17Z")
> [@RumMunkey](#): > > I’m not trusting _any_ of these death tolsl thus far. It will be at least another 10 or so hours before we start getting anything even close to reliable. Exactly. The ‘40 dead’ figure is from “A U.S. law enforcement official”. Because obviously they’re the ones on the ground counting bodies :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/48 "2005-07-07T13:21:12Z")
Just now heard back from one of my friends (I’ve been e’ing my London friends all morning): > [@](#): > > Dearest, > Thanks for the message! > Yep I am fine. I drive to the office and do not work in Central London thankfully > **Several work colleagues were trapped including one who is pregnant. But after two hours being trapped she got out.** > News still sketchy here so do not know who many casualities > We are all shocked but it thank god it doesn’t look as major as events in NY 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/49 "2005-07-07T13:27:00Z")
Ugh. Prayers to all of our London Dopers, family and friends. Stay safe today. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/50 "2005-07-07T13:27:52Z")
I wish there was more I could say beyond that my thoughts and prayers are with those in London at this time. “If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.” – Ausonius ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/51 "2005-07-07T13:28:05Z")
I hope all my friends, relatives, fellow Dopers, and everyone else in London is safe and sound. We got your back. ---
**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/52 "2005-07-07T13:39:22Z")
Most of the LonDopers have checked in on NADS, and are safe. I’m just pissed off. And not at all happy with one of my collaborators here, who whilst I was worrying as to whether **Bonzer** was safe or not (he is), claimed that the British Government brought this on itself through supporting the US in the Iraq war… Grrrr… ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/53 "2005-07-07T13:47:07Z")
Looks like our London office folk are okay. Didn’t this seem to hit toward the end of the rush hour (a bit before 9:00)? Maybe that’s a piece of good news, that more people had already arrived at work. Probably be a pisser getting home tonight, though. Everyone take care. ---
**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/54 "2005-07-07T14:10:51Z")
LonDopers, please know that you’re all in our minds and our hearts today. May they catch the bastards responsible, and soon. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/55 "2005-07-07T14:12:33Z")
**Angua** , I’m glad to hear that the LonDopers are checking in and are okay. I hope the rest of them check in soon. My heart goes out to London in general. Is the UK going to invoke the NATO treaty? Anything else I could say probably belongs in the Pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/56 "2005-07-07T14:16:42Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > Is the UK going to invoke the NATO treaty? I don’t see how that would be relevant. Today isn’t on the scale of 9/11. It’s essentially a domestic issue - it’ll probably be dealt with as with the Madrid attacks, and as with other terrorist attacks in Britain, by treating it as a criminal investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/57 "2005-07-07T14:17:10Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > **Angua** , I’m glad to hear that the LonDopers are checking in and are okay. I hope the rest of them check in soon. > > My heart goes out to London in general. > > Is the UK going to invoke the NATO treaty? > > Anything else I could say probably belongs in the Pit thread. What comes of invoking the treaty? I know very little about it. ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/58 "2005-07-07T14:21:56Z")
Oh my God. Those bastards. My SO has friends there, I’m going to give him a heads up to check in with them. Stay safe, guys. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/59 "2005-07-07T14:30:59Z")
> [@ronincyberpunk](#): > > What comes of invoking the treaty? I know very little about it. After 9/11, the US invoked the NATO treaty’s mutual self-defense provision (Article V, I think). This provision obligates all member states to treat an attack on one as an attack on all – with the implication that everybody is to respond to the attacker with their full military might. Checking the web… [Text of the NATO treaty.](http://www.nato.int/docu/basictxt/treaty.htm) ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-hell-theyre-bombing-london/311437/60 "2005-07-07T14:31:38Z")
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