# What the holy hell is wrong with some people?!?!?!?!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 18, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224 "2017-10-18T13:28:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/1 "2017-10-18T13:28:40Z")

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> **[Mother Burns Her Own Sons to Death by Putting Them in Oven, Cops Say](https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-burns-her-own-sons-175900266.html)**
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> A Fulton County, Ga., mother-of-four has been charged with murder.

I just have no words…

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/2 "2017-10-18T13:32:58Z")

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Severe mental illness is what:

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> Family members said Lamora Williams suffered from mental health issues all her life and was suffering from post-partum depression at the time of the alleged murders.
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> “Mora wasn’t right," said Williams’ mother, Brenda Williams. "She hasn’t been right and what happened three months ago, that the kids father left her, I told him something tragic is going to happen. She’s going to do something to those kids, she’s going to do something to herself.”

Horrific, yes, but that mother was in no condition to be a mother and someone should have stepped in to protect those kids – and her, too; it wouldn’t surprise me if she’d killed herself along with the kids.

ETA: I see dear walkout daddy promptly set up a GoFundMe page, stated purpose, some vague intent to see to it that such things don’t happen to any other kids. Why does this not surprise me?

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**Author:** ![StraightTalk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straighttalk/32/9982_2.png) [@StraightTalk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StraightTalk)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/3 "2017-10-18T13:48:14Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Severe mental illness is what:
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> Horrific, yes, but that mother was in no condition to be a mother and someone should have stepped in to protect those kids – and her, too; it wouldn’t surprise me if she’d killed herself along with the kids.
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> ETA: I see dear walkout daddy promptly set up a GoFundMe page, stated purpose, some vague intent to see to it that such things don’t happen to any other kids. Why does this not surprise me?

That’s truly sad. If the family knew something was not right with her, could they have not done something before this happened?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/4 "2017-10-18T14:11:02Z")

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In a lighter vein (?), here’s another candidate for mom of the year - the Ohio woman who [taped her 2-year-old son to the wall](http://www.dispatch.com/news/20171016/mother-pleads-guilty-to-taping-2-year-old-son-to-wall) so she could get her housework done, and livestreamed the video:

\*“You’ve got the best mommy in the whole world,” Rudolph can be heard telling the boy on the video. “Don’t make me put more tape up there. Now sit still. You can see the TV from right there.

“You can’t clean without them running around, tearing up? Tape them to the wall. You can’t cook or none of that because they’re running around? Tape them to the wall.”\*

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/5 "2017-10-18T14:24:24Z")

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> [@StraightTalk](#):
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> That’s truly sad. If the family knew something was not right with her, could they have not done something before this happened?

Probably not? Vague “I think there is something wrong her” aren’t going to sway “kids need to be with their parents” courts (and probably shouldn’t, or there would potentially be a lot of hearings for people that are odd but not dangerous).

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/6 "2017-10-18T15:13:21Z")

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Meanwhile, in Floriduh, [325-Pound Woman Killed 9-Year-Old by Sitting on Her as Punishment, Police Say](http://time.com/4985655/veronica-green-posey-child-killed/)

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/7 "2017-10-18T15:20:14Z")

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Killing your own kids is a special kind of crazy. That’s your contribution to the gene pool for crissake.

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**Author:** ![blogflogdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@blogflogdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blogflogdog)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/8 "2017-11-14T04:59:14Z")

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We forget that we are mammals… people suck. Tigers rule.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/9 "2017-11-14T05:08:56Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> Killing your own kids is a special kind of crazy.

In the case of mothers, it is often the special kind of crazy known as [postpartum psychosis](https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200211/moms-who-kill).

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> Though debilitating, the emotional reactions to being a new mom that signify depression are not as severe as those associated with postpartum psychosis, of which the predominant symptom is a “break” with reality—a loss of the ability to discern what is real from what is not. For instance, a woman with PPD may experience violent thoughts about her baby but recognizes that those thoughts are wrong and potentially dangerous. In that case, she will not act on them.
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> A woman with full-fledged psychosis, however, has temporarily lost the judgment needed to make this assessment. Very often, a woman with psychosis experiences a frightening sense of merging—she can’t differentiate between where she ends and where her baby begins. Psychotic merger is so terrifying that she may try to avoid losing her sense of self by either committing suicide or infanticide, also known as suicide by proxy.

> [@blogflagdog](#):
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> […] people suck. Tigers rule.

Tigers, male and female, sometimes not only kill their own cubs but [also eat them](https://www.timesofisrael.com/tragedy-as-rare-jlem-zoo-tigress-eats-cubs/):

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> Tigers in both captivity and the wild are known to eat their cubs for a variety of reasons, including stress, lack of food, and a desire to mate.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-holy-hell-is-wrong-with-some-people/799224/10 "2017-11-14T05:49:40Z")

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> [@blogflogdog](#):
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> We forget that we are mammals… people suck. Tigers rule.

OK, Calvin. 🙂
