# What the...? It's Groundhog Day again! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 2, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350 "2010-02-02T06:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/101 "2012-02-03T02:34:45Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > There are a couple of other black folks on the town square during the celebrations, too, FWIW. How dare you reply to my well researched and entirely serious analysis with 'facts. How do we know they are Punxatawnians?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/102 "2012-02-03T03:56:13Z")
Did he just call himself “the talent”? ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/103 "2012-02-03T04:03:23Z")
What the heck is going on here? ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/104 "2012-02-03T04:37:01Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Did he just call himself “the talent”? [What the heck is going on here?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12067157&postcount=27) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/105 "2012-02-03T05:04:42Z")
I dated your sister Mary Pat a coupla times until you told me to stop? Bing! ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/106 "2012-02-03T08:40:37Z")
I may be weird, but my favorite line of the whole movie is (in quotes): Ned: I dated your sister Mary Pat a coupla times 'till you told me not to anymore. Phil: Ned? Reyerson? Ned: Bing!!! “Phil: \Biiiinnnngg.\” The way Murray delivers that line is impecable. Biiiinnnngg. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/107 "2012-02-03T13:31:07Z")
Phil: Ned Ryerson - I have missed you so much. [hugs him] I don’t know where you’re headed, but… can you call in sick? [keeps hugging him and rubbing his back] Ned: Uh… I gotta get going. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/108 "2012-02-05T02:56:58Z")
> [@Crawlspace](#): > > **Siam Siam** , I believe you have it wrong. The real catalyst is the bartender. Think about it. This guy has had to spend his entire life as the only black man in whitebred, lovely but hickish Punxatawney. Then this arrogant jerk of a ‘weather’ man comes in and insults his town and his bar skills. He does the only thing he could do, sentence Phil to a lifetime stuck in Punxatawney. > > Over the years he continues to see Phil as a sleazeball, using his bar and a pack of lies to pickup women. However he cannot speak to Phil for fear that he won’t say the same thing the same way. Phil is left to his own devices to change. > > By the end of the movie, Phil loves Punxstawney. He has truley made a transformation. He’s a better person and loves everyone in town. Not only that, but Phil has livened up his bar with some decent jazz piano instead of the interminable dross of Polka that had been playing. Realizing Phil has learned his lesson, he let’s him go. Sealing the deal is that he now has his next victim, a man who was using his bar and a pack of lies to pickup a woman, a man who pretended to leave a big tip to impress her only to pull all but a dollar back. That man was Larry the camera-man. > > I’m not sure how the bartender did it, though. He probably slipped something into Phil’s first drink (Can I get one of these with some booze in it.) then again when he was on stage at the party. You could be on to something. But I keep thinking of Ned cackling “Watch out for that first step, it’s a doozie!” like he was the Wicked Witch of the West. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/109 "2012-02-05T04:13:19Z")
Too early for flapjacks? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/110 "2012-02-05T04:41:13Z")
I watched this movie again the other day. I think I have been reading the Big Bang Theory threads too much. I was getting irked that Phil kept on waking up at 6 am and it was daylight. Sunrise isn’t until about 7:30 am in the Pittsburgh area on February 2nd. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/111 "2012-02-05T05:07:49Z")
Let’s go down to the quarry and throw stuff down there! They did that in this movie, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/112 "2012-02-05T05:10:14Z")
There is a pic of Murray holding the groundhog in his car while driving. Whenever I see that I hear “I’m alright” from Caddy Shack. But, I have not yet seen this film. I wonder if it is on Hulu. Maybe I will check tonight. Hmm… make that this morning. My hours are flipped right now to support some projects on the other side of the planet. And, yes, I am goofing off right now. But, I am not being paid so don’t get huffy. heh heh heh ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/113 "2012-02-05T07:18:28Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I was getting irked that Phil kept on waking up at 6 am and it was daylight. He may have woken up at 6am, but each day actually began at 5:59am. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/114 "2012-02-05T19:41:55Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He may have woken up at 6am, but each day actually began at 5:59am. Oh, that explains it then. there is a lot more daylight at 5:59 am than at 6:00 am. 😃 :smack: :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/115 "2012-02-05T20:42:45Z")
Well, I sure as heckfire remember you! ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/116 "2012-02-05T21:52:46Z")
There is no way this winter is ever going to end as long as this groundhog keeps seeing his shadow. I don’t see any other way out. He’s got to be stopped. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/117 "2012-02-05T23:23:20Z")
Don’t drive angry! ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/118 "2012-02-06T03:01:33Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > He may have woken up at 6am, but each day actually began at 5:59am. > [@notfrommensa](#): > > Oh, that explains it then. there is a lot more daylight at 5:59 am than at 6:00 am. > > 😃 :smack: :dubious: Well, there ya go. Ha! Now we know why you’re “not from Mensa.” :D;) No, really, I was just mentioning that because everyone always makes a big deal about the new day starting at 6am. But the clock always shows 5:59. He just wakes up at 6:00. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/119 "2012-02-06T18:38:28Z")
> [@Crawlspace](#): > > **Siam Siam** , I believe you have it wrong. The real catalyst is the bartender. Think about it. This guy has had to spend his entire life as the only black man in whitebred, lovely but hickish Punxatawney… Just saw it again. The morgue attendant who shows the just-fell-to-his-death Phil’s corpse to Rita and Larry, as well as the nurse at the hospital who tells Larry that the old homeless guy has died, are both black. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350/120 "2012-02-07T14:25:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Just saw it again. The morgue attendant who shows the just-fell-to-his-death Phil’s corpse to Rita and Larry, as well as the nurse at the hospital who tells **Phil** that the old homeless guy has died, are both black. Correction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-the-its-groundhog-day-again/527350.md?page=7)