# What themes do you enjoy in adult flicks? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 18, 2007, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445 "2007-12-18T09:20:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/21 "2007-12-18T22:57:54Z")
God, I’ve all but given up on porn for its outright lack of themes, but in Perfect Fantasy World there would be a shitload of sexual tension… antagonism, maybe violence, but basically just an overall emotional or physical intensity to the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/22 "2007-12-18T23:18:55Z")
[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th] God, I’ve all but given up on porn for its outright lack of themes, but in Perfect Fantasy World there would be a shitload of sexual tension… antagonism, maybe violence, but basically just an overall emotional or physical intensity to the relationship. [/QUOTE] You’ll get that in any Jeff Stryker/Jamie Summers pairing, IMO, though that’s going back to the late '80s now. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/23 "2007-12-18T23:34:54Z")
I like femdom porn – women being sexually dominant and aggressive to men (or other women). Very hot. It seems like too much porn these days is big brutish guys manhandling women, tossing them around, jackhammering away while the actresses look like they’re either in pain or terribly bored. There is also too much humiliation in mainstream porn (facials, painful-looking anal, gangbangs, bukkake, ATM, etc), which I find misogynistic and unsettling, to say nothing of completely unerotic. But turn the tables, make the girl the aggressor (whether she’s an seductive cougar on the prowl or a leather-clad dominatrix who won’t take “no” for an answer), and I’m all for it! ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/24 "2007-12-18T23:35:47Z")
I’d like to see Woody Allen direct porn. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/25 "2007-12-18T23:48:55Z")
I enjoy domination themes, as long as they don’t degenerate into humiliation. I also like it when I stumble across “intellectual” (if that’s the right word) porn, though this is exceedingly rare. The best example I’ve seen of this was a scene I watched some time around 1992-93, that involved a young couple who were presented as high school students (though possibly college students, but still quite young), who were boyfriend & girlfriend. The setting was a library, and the couple was studying together at a secluded table. Their honest-to-goodness acting skills were impressive, as they very naturally set up the premise that they had never had sex with each other. The boy was eager to have sex with the girl, and the girl was willing, but first they went through a very complex dialogue discussing the pros and cons, the physical, romantic, and moral/ethical implications of their first time doing it. Unlike most pre-sex porn conversations, there was no fast-forwarding through this bit. These seemed to be actual trained _actors_, not ordinary porn “actors”. You could feel the sexual tension building and building as the conversation progressed. Once these preliminaries were completed, they stripped down (right there in the library) and had sex on the table. Both actors were attractive, and completely natural-looking. The guy wasn’t hung like a horse, and the girl was slim and small-breasted, with tasteful makeup and hair. The sex itself was a convincing portrayal of a “first time”, and the duration was much more realistic than anything else I’ve ever seen (i.e. from disrobing to “money shot” was less than 15 minutes, and that’s even including the fellatio and cunnilingus that preceded the copulation). The mutual pleasure of the participants was apparent even without loud moaning and squealing. All in all, one of the absolute best scenes I’ve ever watched in porn. Unfortunately, I saw the scene as part of one of those 2-hour compilation tapes, so I’ve got no idea what movie it originally came from. I also remain convinced to this day that the actress was [A.J. Langer](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0486277/), who would have been 18 in 1992. Though her TV career (as listed on IMDB) began in 1991, she wasn’t a regular character in anything until “My So-Called Life” in 1994. I happened to catch an episode of that show in 1994 or '95, and it hadn’t been that long since I’d watched that porn scene, so when I saw her character it was like, “Omigod, wasn’t she in that one porn scene?” I mean, her character on the TV show looked _exactly_ like the girl in that scene. Face, figure, and hairstyle. ---
**Author:** ![VernWinterbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c67d28/32.png) [@VernWinterbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VernWinterbottom)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/26 "2007-12-19T00:07:05Z")
[QUOTE=photopat] I’d like to see Woody Allen direct porn. [/QUOTE] I have often thought that myself. Or Mel Brooks. Or John Cleese. ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/27 "2007-12-19T00:21:45Z")
[QUOTE=VernWinterbottom] Or John Cleese. [/QUOTE] Okay, yeah. That could be good. It could give a whole new meaning to “naughty Zoot.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/28 "2007-12-19T00:23:11Z")
And of course, there could be a whole series about “Monty’s Python.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/29 "2007-12-19T00:27:54Z")
What if David Lynch did porn? ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/30 "2007-12-19T00:44:04Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] What if David Lynch did porn? [/QUOTE] What do you mean, “what if?” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/31 "2007-12-19T00:53:07Z")
[QUOTE=Mr. Miskatonic] High Explosives, Sheep, sex on active rollercoaster tracks, massive scar tissue, furniture fucking, hammers & saws, garbage bag sex, sacks of wet kittens, and oversized Mao suits. [/QUOTE] [Oh yeah!](http://www.flickr.com/photos/kattebelletje/69686916/) ETA I honestly didn’t notice in the thumbnail that that was a kid. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/32 "2007-12-19T00:55:52Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] What if David Lynch did porn? [/QUOTE] Well, I met a girl one night and she came over to my house where we watched 5 minutes of _Blue Velvet_ and then we had the following conversation: (paraphrased, it was 20 years ago for God’s sake) Her: “This is weird” Me: “You don’t like it?” “Not really” _leans closer to me_ “We can do something else” “mmmmmmmh huh”\*\* _necking, petting and wild sex in my living room ensued_. Damn, I miss college! \*\*Come to think of it, this is almost a porn movie encounter. It sure was fun though. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/33 "2007-12-19T01:17:27Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] Well, I met a girl one night and she came over to my house where we watched 5 minutes of _Blue Velvet_ and then we had the following conversation: (paraphrased, it was 20 years ago for God’s sake) Her: “This is weird” Me: “You don’t like it?” “Not really” _leans closer to me_ “We can do something else” “mmmmmmmh huh”\*\* _necking, petting and wild sex in my living room ensued_. Damn, I miss college! \*\*Come to think of it, this is almost a porn movie encounter. It sure was fun though. [/QUOTE] That story might have ended differently if you were watching _Eraserhead._ Even five minutes in. ---
**Author:** ![9thFloor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/b487fb/32.png) [@9thFloor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/9thFloor)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/34 "2007-12-19T04:16:25Z")
[QUOTE=Phase42] I enjoy domination themes, as long as they don’t degenerate into humiliation. I also like it when I stumble across “intellectual” (if that’s the right word) porn, though this is exceedingly rare. The best example I’ve seen of this was a scene I watched some time around 1992-93, that involved a young couple who were presented as high school students (though possibly college students, but still quite young), who were boyfriend & girlfriend. The setting was a library, and the couple was studying together at a secluded table. Their honest-to-goodness acting skills were impressive, as they very naturally set up the premise that they had never had sex with each other. The boy was eager to have sex with the girl, and the girl was willing, but first they went through a very complex dialogue discussing the pros and cons, the physical, romantic, and moral/ethical implications of their first time doing it. Unlike most pre-sex porn conversations, there was no fast-forwarding through this bit. These seemed to be actual trained _actors_, not ordinary porn “actors”. You could feel the sexual tension building and building as the conversation progressed. Once these preliminaries were completed, they stripped down (right there in the library) and had sex on the table. Both actors were attractive, and completely natural-looking. The guy wasn’t hung like a horse, and the girl was slim and small-breasted, with tasteful makeup and hair. The sex itself was a convincing portrayal of a “first time”, and the duration was much more realistic than anything else I’ve ever seen (i.e. from disrobing to “money shot” was less than 15 minutes, and that’s even including the fellatio and cunnilingus that preceded the copulation). The mutual pleasure of the participants was apparent even without loud moaning and squealing. All in all, one of the absolute best scenes I’ve ever watched in porn. Unfortunately, I saw the scene as part of one of those 2-hour compilation tapes, so I’ve got no idea what movie it originally came from. I also remain convinced to this day that the actress was [A.J. Langer](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0486277/), who would have been 18 in 1992. Though her TV career (as listed on IMDB) began in 1991, she wasn’t a regular character in anything until “My So-Called Life” in 1994. I happened to catch an episode of that show in 1994 or '95, and it hadn’t been that long since I’d watched that porn scene, so when I saw her character it was like, “Omigod, wasn’t she in that one porn scene?” I mean, her character on the TV show looked _exactly_ like the girl in that scene. Face, figure, and hairstyle. [/QUOTE] Wow, that sounds really good. Know where it can be had? ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/35 "2007-12-19T05:04:51Z")
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/36 "2007-12-19T08:25:54Z")
[QUOTE=9thFloor] Wow, that sounds really good. Know where it can be had? [/QUOTE] Nope, darn it. Like I said, I saw this back in the early '90s on a compilation tape, so no idea what the original video was called. ---
**Author:** ![9thFloor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/b487fb/32.png) [@9thFloor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/9thFloor)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/37 "2007-12-19T08:44:14Z")
[QUOTE=Phase42] Nope, darn it. Like I said, I saw this back in the early '90s on a compilation tape, so no idea what the original video was called. [/QUOTE] Ah, too bad. The blend of acting (in a more real sense) into explicit sex is really hot; you’d never see it anywhere else and it conveys a more complete truth. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/38 "2007-12-19T09:40:02Z")
[QUOTE=control-z] Pirates. Wasn’t there an award-winning pirate porn flick? [/QUOTE] If you concatenate pirates and xxx and apply the usual prefix and suffix you should find what you want. There’s even a teaser for a sequel. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/39 "2007-12-19T10:06:43Z")
Pirates vs. ninjas? ---
**Author:** ![WILLASS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/54ee81/32.png) [@WILLASS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WILLASS)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445/40 "2007-12-19T10:14:08Z")
I’ve always wondered if it would be possible to make a mainstream (or at least not traditionally pornographic) film using real actors but have very realistically shot, hardcore sex scenes using a combination of the actual actors/actresses and perhaps close ups using a ‘stunt cock’ and ‘stunt cunt’ (sorry, had to be done just 'cos it rhymed!) to make it uber realistic. I quite like the idea of watching a film with a really convincing electricity between the two lead roles that, when they actually get down to it, results in some actual sex but not _just_ about sex. Actors can act, porn stars can fuck - they need to amalgamate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-themes-do-you-enjoy-in-adult-flicks/430445.md?page=3)