# What ther fuck do you mean I'm a terrorist, Dollar Bank? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 22, 2003, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707 "2003-11-22T17:44:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/21 "2003-11-23T15:08:34Z")
ok the lack of cafeine is really getting to me it was a flight from England to **France** i am very very cafeine deprived today :putz: ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/22 "2003-11-23T18:46:39Z")
I came back from France, and they confiscated the spring hook that I used to attach my Nalgene bottle to my backpack. For some reason, they didn’t mind that I brought it over to France. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/23 "2003-11-23T18:46:59Z")
I’ve heard it said that the reason to refuse out-of-state licenses is because the clerk is less likely to know what they’re supposed to look like. I still think it’s stupid, but could anyone who’s seen american licences tell us if there’s any truth in that? Also, I thought I understood “I’ve got blue eyes, and my name isn’t Achmed Muhammed Deathtoamericallahakba” fine. I thought he was saying that we’re (depressingly) used to certain people being discriminated against, but this isn’t that kind of stupidity, its a whole new kind of stupidity, that isn’t pitted as often. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/24 "2003-11-23T22:30:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \* > \*\*Yuppers. My mom had her tweezers nabbed when she first flew after they finally opened the airlines back up. She’s 66 and barely 5 feet tall. > > Oooooh, but watch out folks, you never know. :rolleyes: \*\* Yeah, but was she swarthy, dark curly hair, maybe wearing a Ben Laden T-shirt. Without these details it is impossible to make an accurate assessment. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/25 "2003-11-23T22:40:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Shade \* > \*\*I’ve heard it said that the reason to refuse out-of-state licenses is because the clerk is less likely to know what they’re supposed to look like. I still think it’s stupid, but could anyone who’s seen american licences tell us if there’s any truth in that? \*\* Quite possible. You can get a booklet which shows what the licences of every state look like, but I’m sure some establishments think it’s too much trouble to have to flip all those pages every time someone from a different state comes in. When I moved from Maryland to New York, I had problems both with the DMV and the bank because I had an out-of-state non-driver ID. A driver’s licence would have been fine, but a non-driver ID wasn’t, even though _it was issued by the exact same agency and required the same amount of proof of ID for me to obtain it in the first place_. That really pissed me off. ---
**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/26 "2003-11-23T22:41:22Z")
I, too, have had hassles opening a bank account with an out-of-state driver’s license, YEARS before 9/11. The clerk was quite nice about it, but made it clear: “This is bank policy, and if I violate it, my job is history. I’m sorry.” I find it creepy as hell that now, not only can you not open a bank account, but you can also be profiled as a friggin’ terrorist, if you try to do anything before obtaining in-state ID. Besides, what’s to keep terrorists from simply obtaining in-state IDs? ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/27 "2003-11-24T04:35:38Z")
Huh. I opened a bank account here in Chicago in…I don’t know, September or October, and no one cared that I have a California driver’s license. How inconvenient that would be! I keep meaning to get an Illinois license, but since I still have a valid license from another state, it hasn’t been a gigantic priority. Anyway, they don’t make it easy - I need to have four pieces of identification to get that license, one of which is a social security card. Well, my SS card disappeared years ago, so I need a new one. Of course, to get one, you need a birth certificate. I don’t have a birth certificate, naturally, I think my parents have mine. So I ordered a new one from the San Francisco Department of Records. San Francisco is not known for being a bastion of efficiency for a reason - it took several weeks for my birth certificate to arrive. Since the social security office is open regular work hours, most people will probably have to send in their application instead of being able to go in in person (not me, as I’m recently unemployed). So, another few weeks for the new social security card. And then there will be the inevitable hassles at the DMV, which I am personally looking forward to. Maybe a week more, and I will have my very own Illinois driver’s license. Fucking-a, if I’d had to go through all that to open a bank account, when I had a perfectly valid government issued ID in hand, I would have told them to piss off and just start keeping my money under the mattress. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/28 "2003-11-24T12:44:46Z")
Can you imagine the total chaos that would ensue if all banks followed this same procedure? We are a mobile country. It wouldn’t take long for the banking system to fall apart. I would go to another bank that has some smarts. But I would also file complaints with the banking commission, this guys boss and bunches of other people. The bank will be losing lots of customers if they don’t set this person straight. The Patriot Act is unpatriotic. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/29 "2003-11-24T12:56:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Master Wang-Ka \* > \*\*I, too, have had hassles opening a bank account with an out-of-state driver’s license, YEARS before 9/11. The clerk was quite nice about it, but made it clear: “This is bank policy, and if I violate it, my job is history. I’m sorry.” > > I find it creepy as hell that now, not only can you not open a bank account, but you can also be profiled as a friggin’ terrorist, if you try to do anything before obtaining in-state ID. > > Besides, what’s to keep terrorists from simply obtaining in-state IDs? \*\* Don’t be silly! Everyone knows all terrorists come from out of state. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/30 "2003-11-24T13:05:33Z")
Well, now you have a good response whenever some putz comments, “If you’re not a terrorist, then these rules won’t affect you, so what are you America-hating civil liberties kooks complaining about?” ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/31 "2003-11-24T14:11:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyla \* > \*\*Huh. I opened a bank account here in Chicago in…I don’t know, September or October, and no one cared that I have a California driver’s license. > > How inconvenient that would be! I keep meaning to get an Illinois license, but since I still have a valid license from another state, it hasn’t been a gigantic priority. \*\* Be careful! Some states (most? all?) require you to get an in-state driver’s license within a certain period of time after establishing residence in the new state. My husband didn’t get around to getting a license for several months after we moved, either, 'cause he figured that his old one was still valid until the expiration date. He got pulled over for speeding, and made the mistake of telling the officer that he had moved to the state a few months ago. (I was a student at the time so I could maintain my residence back home, so the car’s plates were out of state.) He was given a ticket for _driving without a license_! It didn’t matter at all that he had a non-expired license from another state! ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/32 "2003-11-25T05:25:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BigDaiv \* > \*\*this happened in england on a flight to america: and 87 year old woman had a pair of nail clippers conviscated > 87 YEARS OLD > NAIL CLIPPERS > ok if it was a knife i could understand on the grounds a terrorist could steal it off her and use it but NAIL CLIPPERS \*\* It does not matter who is carrying on a banned item. Would you allow an old lady to carry a gun on the plane because she is old? No you would not. She could carry something to hand off to the well trained 24 year old terrorist. As to why nail clippers are banned, I’m sure some special forces type could tell you how to take out a 747 with just some nail clippers and some ordinary household bleach. (I don’t know why they need bleach and it must be the ordinary kind. Special bleach is never required.) ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/33 "2003-11-25T06:55:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Podkayne \* > \*\*Be careful! Some states (most? all?) require you to get an in-state driver’s license within a certain period of time after establishing residence in the new state. > \*\* I should have mentioned that I don’t have a car, so this isn’t an issue. I use my driver’s license for ID purposes only, and it’s good to have, in case of an emergency. The reason I want an Illinois license is because it would save time when I’m at a bar - people have a hard time finding my birthdate on the California license (even though it’s in red). Although I know I’ll miss the inevitable comments on my home state’s politics. ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/34 "2003-11-25T07:57:24Z")
Ok, hijack for a dumb question: Here in Texas you’re supposed to get your car registered and your license switched within 90 days of moving or 30 days of getting “gainful employment,” whichever comes first. I’ve been here since July and had a job for three months this Friday, and only just got my registration done this morning (license will be next week, probably, since I don’t think I’ll have time before then). The lady who put my registration through asked me how long I’d been in the state, but didn’t say anything when I told her. What would the possible penalties be - not specifically in Texas, but ANYWHERE - for getting your car registered and your license changed AFTER the grace period? Could they fine you for doing the right thing but doing it tardily? ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/35 "2003-11-25T11:17:00Z")
They would probably fine you if you got pulled over and hadn’t gotten it done yet - and it was past the grace period. But I don’t think they’d just fine you out of hand, though maybe this varies from state to state. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/36 "2003-11-25T17:39:00Z")
A followup. I got my Ohio license today. It took me all of ten minutes to open an account at Charter One Bank. I asked about the terrorist policy, and the woman who helped me open the account said it was bullshit, but that some banks were being extra cautious so they don’t have problems with the Feds. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/37 "2003-11-25T17:55:33Z")
Hmmm… Elmwood is an “Urban Planner” Terrorists are often affiliated with “Al Qaeda” Descriptive phrases concerning affiliations containing _two words each_. Coincidence? I think not! ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/38 "2003-11-25T18:06:58Z")
… and his name contains the letters WMD :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/39 "2003-11-25T18:27:50Z")
**racinchikki** : Eh, not to worry. I’ve been in that situation _twice_ in the last two years (once in CA, once here in NY), admitted it to the authorities both times, and was let off with a warning. When my sis moved back to PA from Georgia, she waited over a year to change her license and license plate and never got caught. One more log to throw on the “ **elmwood** =terrorist” fire: **elmwood** is a former native of Buffalo. Lackawanna Six, anyone? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707/40 "2003-11-25T18:46:53Z")
[Seven of the nineteen 9/11 terrorists were Virginians.](http://charleston.net/stories/070703/wor_8ifiller.shtml) So America solved its terrorism problem by declaring war on itself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-ther-fuck-do-you-mean-im-a-terrorist-dollar-bank/214707.md?page=3)