# What this country needs is another 9/11!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 10, 2007, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115 "2007-08-10T07:41:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/1 "2007-08-10T07:41:59Z")

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That’s what [Stu Bykofsky thinks](http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/stu_bykofsky/20070809_Stu_Bykofsky ___To_save_America__ we_need_another_9_11.html):

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> ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I’m thinking another 9/11 would help America.

The basic reasoning, as far as I can figure out, is this. If those pernicious Muslim terrorist types don’t carry out big terrorist attacks in America, then we “forget who are enemy is”. Therefore, it follows logically that it’s good when they do carry out terrorist attacks, because that will remind us who are enemy is.

Why of course! Why didn’t I think of that before?

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/2 "2007-08-10T08:03:29Z")

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Does he believe that America needed “the first” 9/11?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/3 "2007-08-10T08:03:45Z")

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It’s only the 29th of February that doesn’t happen every year.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/4 "2007-08-10T08:26:11Z")

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Stu Byofsky is the Takota Sioux word for Ward Churchill.

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/5 "2007-08-10T10:51:15Z")

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“If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America’s righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.”

What a twat. I suppose foreign policy is a lot more straightforward when the population are ‘seeing red’ en masse. God forbid people might ‘chatter’ about world affairs and come to some reasonably rational conclusions…

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/6 "2007-08-10T11:41:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Staggerlee]  
"What a twat. I suppose foreign policy is a lot more straightforward when the population are ‘seeing red’ en masse.  
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Remember when the population was ‘seeing Red’?

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/7 "2007-08-10T13:04:08Z")

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I get into screaming matches with my right-wing BIL over this shit every time I visit my sister. Totally fucked up.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/8 "2007-08-10T13:19:03Z")

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So, in other words, we need another terrorist attack so that fear will drive us to vote his preferred leaders into power again. That’s one of the most cynical, evil things I’ve ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/9 "2007-08-10T13:20:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Kozmik]  
Remember when the population was ‘seeing Red’?  
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I meant as in ‘bloodthirsty rage’ rather than McCarthy witch-hunts.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/10 "2007-08-10T13:20:49Z")

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> America’s fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.

Well, sure. Aren’t all the sweaters made in China these days?

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> If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America’s righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.

Er, wasn’t it our righteous rage and singular purpose that suckered us into an entirely useless conflict in Iraq?

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/11 "2007-08-10T13:23:34Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
So, in other words, we need another terrorist attack so that fear will drive us to vote his preferred leaders into power again. That’s one of the most cynical, evil things I’ve ever heard.  
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A sickening irony, isn’t it, wanting your nation hurt in order to stoke the fires of nationalistic fervour.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/12 "2007-08-10T13:41:06Z")

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What bothers me is that this guy is daring to speak what I suspect a fair number of neocons are thinking.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/13 "2007-08-10T13:59:01Z")

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Just as long as it happens at Stu’s office or his house or both.

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**Author:** ![Saitou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Saitou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saitou)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/14 "2007-08-10T14:04:49Z")

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So killing innocent people over here, helps us kill (innocent) people over there? I am so confused.

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> Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny. Free men pull in all kinds of directions.  
> _-Terry Pratchett_

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/15 "2007-08-10T14:16:18Z")

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[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
So, in other words, we need another terrorist attack so that fear will drive us to vote his preferred leaders into power again. That’s one of the most cynical, evil things I’ve ever heard.  
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That’s not exactly what he’s saying. He’s saying that another 9/11 would cause us to put aside partisan differences and bring us together as a country.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/16 "2007-08-10T14:18:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
That’s not exactly what he’s saying. He’s saying that another 9/11 would cause us to put aside partisan differences **and bring us together as a country**.  
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…together in embracing his favored position, yes.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/17 "2007-08-10T14:23:33Z")

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If you lose the first one, the playground response of the loser is “Best two-out-of-three!”

This time I promise we won’t screw it up.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/18 "2007-08-10T14:39:29Z")

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> [@Stu Bykofsky](#):
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> Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don’t have the patience for a long slog. We’ve been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.

:rolleyes: You’re citing **that** as a **good** example, Stu?

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/19 "2007-08-10T14:43:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
That’s not exactly what he’s saying. He’s saying that another 9/11 would cause us to put aside partisan differences and bring us together as a country.  
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It sure could! Well, the muslims would probably not be included in this huge country get together, though. Let’s see if there’s something else this country needs that will _really_ bring us together.

How about a plague-- a really big one-- that’ll decimate our population. Or Yellowstone going super volcano and ripping the country literally in half. Or a presidential assasination, that’ll sure do it. I know I’d put aside my distaste for the current administration if some known or unknown enemy killed the president.

Yeah, those ideas sound just about as retarded as what Stu is _exactly_ saying.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/20 "2007-08-10T15:13:55Z")

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Hey, just about anything’s better than a recession.

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