# What this country needs is another 9/11!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 10, 2007, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115 "2007-08-10T07:41:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/121 "2007-08-14T16:08:24Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil One]  
We do know that the security methods already in place are obviously effective in preventing a 9/11 scale attack because another one hasn’t happened.  
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**Homer:** Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm!  
**Lisa:** That’s specious reasoning, Dad.  
**Homer:** Thank you, dear.  
**Lisa:** By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.  
**Homer:** Oh, how does it work?  
**Lisa:** It doesn’t work.  
**Homer:** Uh-huh.  
**Lisa:** It’s just a stupid rock.  
**Homer:** Uh-huh.  
**Lisa:** But I don’t see any tigers around, do you?  
**Homer:** Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/122 "2007-08-14T16:09:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil One]  
But if another attack had happened, people like yourself would shake the sand out of your hair long enough to yell that the attack was Bush’s fault.  
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He’s in charge. That makes it his fault.

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**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/123 "2007-08-14T16:09:54Z")

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Seve, that was exactly what I was coming in here to post.

Hah!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/124 "2007-08-14T16:14:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil One]  
Where, pray tell, did you read the word “Iraq” in any of my posts in this thread?  
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Did Bush fuck up when he decided to invade Iraq?

We’ve already read enough of your digressive blatherings; a simple “YES” or “NO” will suffice.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/125 "2007-08-14T16:23:23Z")

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Conservatives who pine for the unity among Americans that existed following 9/11 have only to blame, root out and correct the vast numbers of conservative cunts who spent the last six years beating other Americans over the head with charges of loving Saddam (“Saddamite” anyone?), being Treasonous, hating America, being part of the Party of Death…

Why not work for unity by being thoughtful, collaborative, cooperative or at least fucking respectful of those who differ with you, instead of calling for another mass murder of Americans?

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/126 "2007-08-14T18:12:39Z")

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**Evil One** , why do you hate America so much that you want an attack against us to succeed?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/127 "2007-08-14T18:32:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil One]  
And have you considered that another attack will discredit those who oppose such methods in the minds of the vast majority of Americans?  
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I’m aware of that. I don’t think torture really bothers “the vast majority of Americans” in the first place.

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> We do know that the security methods already in place are obviously effective in preventing a 9/11 scale attack because another one hasn’t happened.

Other people have already dealt with this highly specious reasoning, so I won’t pile on.

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> Who else is going to do the job? No system is perfect and individuals within the government have done questionable and illegal acts.

The questionable and illegal acts are the stated policy of the government, which makes it foolish to dismiss concerns about wiretapping and surveillance as “paranoid fantasies about “slippery slopes” and shadowy men in sunglasses listening to your phone call to your Aunt Marge.”

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> But that doesn’t mean we can pretend there isn’t a problem while we worship at the altar of political correctness.

You’re right. Why oh why did I pick that post to debut my new sig line, “There’s no problem here, so let’s all go down to the First Church of Limp-Wristed Leftiness and worship at the Altar of Political Correctness!?”

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-this-country-needs-is-another-9-11/415115/128 "2007-08-15T14:12:06Z")

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My feelings after 9/11 were not happy fuzzy feelings. What I felt most was an overwhelming sadness. The Paul Simon song “American Tune” summed it up for me. Though the song had been written years before, it seemed to fit perfectly. [Video clip](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3kKUEY5WU).

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