# What thread on the Dope most surprised you with its responses?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 3, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533 "2010-01-03T20:10:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/61 "2010-01-05T21:34:51Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> I’ve seen plenty of pregnant women, and nothing “weird” happened to any of them. YMMV

Depends how you define weird. Gaining weight when I don’t want to, changing my exercise routine, changing what I eat/drink, and labor at the end of it. Would most guys be okay with sex if they had to get anally sodomized in nine months? I’m being hyperbolic, but I’m very sensitive about stuff happening to me against my will that involves my nether regions. If I consented to a pregnancy and was going through it on MY terms, then yeah, it’s all good. But the idea of me, or any woman, going through an unwanted pregnancy when she’d prefer to abort is, to my mind, tragic.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/62 "2010-01-05T21:35:15Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I know this thread has “Hijack Me” written all over it, but maybe start a new thread?

Seconded. Motion carried!

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/63 "2010-01-05T21:39:01Z")

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Sorry for the hijack. I’m with **DianaG** , though. (That’s been happening a lot lately. Have you co-opted my brain?) Why is it that men, who will never deal with pregnancy, feel so comfortable acting like it’s no biggie?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/64 "2010-01-05T21:39:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Seconded. Motion carried!

[Then it’s all settled.](http://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/gtfo_take_fail_cat.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/65 "2010-01-05T21:43:13Z")

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Legal kitteh r legal.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/66 "2010-01-05T22:23:05Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I’m surprised by some people in [thread=546438]this thread[/thread] and how downright _proud_ they are at having never done/see _X_.

Well I’m proud to say I have never seen that thread before now.

Thanks for sharing.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/67 "2010-01-05T23:27:49Z")

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[The suicide thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542188&highlight=suicide) where people were talking about how close they have come to suicide at various points in their lives.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/68 "2010-01-06T02:40:37Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> I’ve seen plenty of pregnant women, and nothing “weird” happened to any of them. YMMV

Sorry to continue this, but just out of curiosity, are you married? Have you ever lived with a pregnant woman? Because I find it hard to believe that any person in close proximity with a pregnant woman would not deem the shit your body goes through “weird,” even with the narrowest of definitions.

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**Author:** ![Skylark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Skylark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skylark)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/69 "2010-01-06T03:17:31Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> Assuming you can give the baby up for adoption, is avoiding 9 months of pregnancy worth a lifetime without sex? Doesn’t the pleasure of a lifetime of sex outweigh whatever negatives 9 months of pregnancy will cause?

I see where you’re going, but I think the child produced from such a casual affair might disagree. S/he’s probably going to be around for longer than 9 months.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/70 "2010-01-06T03:34:00Z")

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> [@Stealth\_Potato](#):
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> Is that really surprising? At least in the framing I recall (with a hypothetically perfect predictor), it’s the only choice that makes sense.

IIRC, when Martin Gardiner first popularized this ‘paradox’ in his Scientific American column (in the 70’s I think), he observed that, invariably, people who opt for choice ‘A+B’ think that those who choose ‘B’ are being silly, argumentative, or stupid, and vice versa. 🙂

As an aside, I think the ‘paradox’ simply proves that such a being can’t exist.

A second aside: [a Newcomb’s Paradox thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30486&highlight=paradox)

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/71 "2010-01-06T03:51:30Z")

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> [@Polerius](#):
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> Can you clarify?
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> On one hand, we have 40 years of sexual pleasure.
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> On the other hand we have nine months of \_\_\_\_.
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> Can you fill in the blank as to what aspects of pregnancy you expect to be so bad to outweigh 40 years of sexual pleasure?

Adding an unwanted, unneeded person to an already overpopulated world. Forcing someone like me who sincerely believes in the need to control escalating human population and the Zero Population Growth Philosophy is the same as forcing a pacifist to be part of an execution team. It would be forcing me to commit what I believe to be the worst crime possible.

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**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/72 "2010-01-06T03:59:59Z")

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I am surprised that in [this thread about acne](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=533899), I was the only poster who had the opinion that acne is primarily a cosmetic problem.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/73 "2010-01-06T04:37:07Z")

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If every time I had sex, there was a distinct possibility that nine months later I’d shit a bowling ball, I’d probably never have sex again, either.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/74 "2010-01-06T04:50:30Z")

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[Moderator Warning] This thread is for discussing other threads on the Dope that most surprised you with its responses-it is _not_ for rehashing all those threads. If you want to continue those arguments, start a new thread in the appropriate forum, with a link to the old thread if you wish.[/Moderator Warning]

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/75 "2010-01-06T04:54:25Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> It would be forcing me to commit what I believe to be the worst crime possible.

I also believe that the possibility of unwanted pregnancy would be sufficient reason for me to never have sex.  
But you do you _really_ think of it as the “worst crime possible”?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/76 "2010-01-06T05:00:13Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I also believe that the possibility of unwanted pregnancy would be sufficient reason for me to never have sex.  
> But you do you _really_ think of it as the “worst crime possible”?

Did you read the post right before the one you just posted?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/77 "2010-01-06T05:06:56Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Did you read the post right before the one you just posted?

No – Miller’s post was the last one when I started composing a response.  
But fair enough.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/78 "2010-01-06T11:16:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **Jelly Roll** : I was shocked to see how many Dopers know/knew someone who had been murdered.

If I am correct about the timing of that post, I have added two old friends to my list since the question came up.

In all of the threads about Guantanamo, I have been stunned at the number of people who aren’t bothered by our policy of imprisoning people for indefinite periods of time without charging them with a crime or trying them. And I have been bewildered by the number of Americans who think that torture is part of “truth, justice, and the American way.”

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/79 "2010-01-06T13:47:14Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> It would be forcing me to commit what I believe to be the worst crime possible.

So you’re saying that human procreation is the worst crime possible? You’re a monster if that’s the case. God forbid you should be the target of a serial killer, for example, but I guess that would be a lesser crime than ensuring the long term survival of the human species.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-thread-on-the-dope-most-surprised-you-with-its-responses/523533/80 "2010-01-06T17:01:50Z")

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It was years ago, so I can’t find the thread (and there have probably been a few similar ones since, I suspect) but it was on the Dope that I, to my great astonishment, found out that many women shave or wax all or most of their pubic hair. I (mid twenties at the time) really had no idea that this was ever done outside of a porn flick.

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