# What to say to get people to die for you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2007, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436 "2007-04-10T03:36:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zany_Zeolite_Zipper)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/21 "2007-04-10T16:06:49Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
“For you” or “With you?”

There’s a **biiiiig** difference there. The St. Crispin’s Day speech, along with the exortation on Omaha Beach were along the lines of “We die together facing fearful odds.”

My favorite would be the famous dwarfish battle cry “Today is a good day for **somebody else** to die!” 😃  
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I was thinking both, along the lines of what a Sarge or other leader would yell to get his men out of the trenches.

Fight and you may die. Run and you’ll live – at least a while  
And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!  
William Wallace

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/22 "2007-04-10T16:11:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Paul in Saudi]  
It’s nothing personal, it is (or was) our job. I never gave it a second’s thought.  
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But what was it that inspired you to take the job in the first place? Back in my day it began, “Greetings from the President of the United States."

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/23 "2007-04-10T16:21:35Z")

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grape flavor-aid, and was reported to be without sugar- how disgusting is that?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/24 "2007-04-10T17:50:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Wee Bairn]  
grape flavor-aid, and was reported to be without sugar- how disgusting is that?  
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Insult to injury. No wonder people were crying.

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**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/25 "2007-04-10T18:39:06Z")

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The chieftain who invented religion:

Chieftain: “Go charge those spears”  
Tribesmen: “No way!”  
Chieftain (thinking) “Um, if you do, you won’t _really_ die. In fact, you’ll go to a better world… a paradise, yeah, that’s it!”

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**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/26 "2007-04-10T19:10:42Z")

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[QUOTE=FriarTed]  
The Heaven’s Gate suicide was said to have been done via Kool-Aid. Walloon was correcting that Flavor-Aid was used, but his cite indicated it was used at Jonestown.  
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I wasn’t referring to Heaven’s Gate at all.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/27 "2007-04-10T19:20:21Z")

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The key thing is knowing when to shut up.

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/28 "2007-04-10T19:41:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Zany Zeolite Zipper]

that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!  
William Wallace  
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I prefer the Wee Free Men

\*\*They can tak’ oour lives, but they cannae tak’ oour troousers!" \*\*

Si

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/29 "2007-04-12T05:09:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
If you fly the plane into the building, you get 72 virgins.  
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Nope. If it was 73… then we could talk. I’m not doing it for 72.  
Oh, thats not PC? well she started it!

Yes, I know that 72 equates to an infinite number. … :dubious:

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/30 "2007-04-12T05:44:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Sage Rat]  
[Jack Bauer]We need you to do this. I’m sorry…there’s no other way. You have to or MILLIONS of PEOPLE will DIE[/JB]  
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[Jack Bauer]I need a tactical team assembled and ready to meet me within the hour!![/Jack Bauer]

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/31 "2007-04-12T12:30:33Z")

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“Die for me and I’ll make out with you.”

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/32 "2007-04-12T14:12:08Z")

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“Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim Gun, and they have not.”

“Front rank, present arms! Range, 600 yards. Fire on my command…”

Inspiring words for British Soldiers facing hordes of charging Natives. Not so inspiring for the charging Natives, though…

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/33 "2007-04-12T14:18:56Z")

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[QUOTE=JThunder]  
“Die for me and I’ll make out with you.”  
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No, mine is an undying love.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/34 "2007-04-12T14:41:44Z")

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“CHARGE!!!”

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/35 "2007-04-12T15:55:36Z")

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Last one to the enemy front line is a nerd!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/36 "2007-04-12T16:06:12Z")

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One of David Letterman’s Top Ten lists back in the '80s was something like “Top Ten Least-Inspiring Battle Cries of History.” The one I remember was, “Let’s win this for our swishy, inbred monarch!”

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**Author:** ![Redfrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc29f/32.png) [@Redfrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redfrost)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/37 "2007-04-12T16:08:57Z")

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Go fight an maybe die or stand here while I shoot you.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/38 "2007-04-12T16:24:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Martini Enfield]  
Inspiring words for British Soldiers facing hordes of charging Natives. Not so inspiring for the charging Natives, though…  
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“Well, you see, George, I did like it, back in the old days when the prerequisite of a British campaign was that the enemy should under no circumstances carry guns – even spears made us think twice.”  
–Captain Blackadder

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/39 "2007-04-12T17:58:26Z")

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“Firstly you must always implicitly obey orders, without attempting to form any opinion of your own regarding their propriety. Secondly, you must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and thirdly you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil.”

- Horatio Nelson to a midshipman in 1793 aboard the Agamemnon.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-to-say-to-get-people-to-die-for-you/399436/40 "2007-04-12T18:17:48Z")

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It is rumored that at San Juan Hill, Teddy Roosevelt said, “Follow me!”.

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