# What Trans Would You Like To Be? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 14, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918 "2016-07-14T20:14:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/41 "2016-07-15T15:41:38Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > I LOL’ed. Perhaps he really wants to be trans-endental. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/42 "2016-07-15T15:50:02Z")
I want to be transcontinental, because like ZZ Top I’m bad, I’m nationwide. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/43 "2016-07-15T16:00:24Z")
You know what? I can sympathize with the OP. I’m an older guy also. I grew up in a time when black people were considered inferior to white people and women were considered inferior to men. The attitudes towards homosexuals and transgendered people were even worse. I lived through black rights, women’s rights, gay rights and now trans rights and every one of them was an adjustment. I realize the “struggle” I faced was nothing compared to the struggle these people faced. But recognize I had to work also and change the way I looked at the world and other people. It might have been easier to just cling to the beliefs I grew up with. I could have decided I was right and the world was wrong. But I decided instead that if the world was changing I was going to try to keep up and change with it. If I can learn how to program a VCR, and surf the internet, and use a smart phone, I can learn how to respect people I used to treat like jokes. I like to think I’ve grown into a better person and not just an older person. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/44 "2016-07-15T16:06:46Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > Did you really and truly actually read that post? More importantly, did you understand it? I think TipTapTwo and the OP are one and the same entity. My eyes just kind of glazed over. I saw it as a bunch of word salad trying to sound intellectual. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/45 "2016-07-15T16:14:07Z")
> [@TipTapTwo](#): > > Careful with your wish **Sitnam**. The FDA is banning most Trans Fats from grocery stores, and from being served in restaurants. You could only spend more time in state fairs and movie theaters if you worked there, serving Cis Fats. This is horrible. I fully support the transfat community. They should be allowed everywhere. Except the military, of course . We shouldn’t let transfatties in the military, just cisfatties. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/46 "2016-07-15T16:24:26Z")
I’m Trans-Love Airways. I get you there on time. ---
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/47 "2016-07-15T16:44:24Z")
Can I just be transitive, so no matter what you try to substitute, there I am. ---
**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/48 "2016-07-15T17:34:32Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > It might be nice to be Australian or Canadian. One of those countries with a national health program. But then I’d have to learn to talk funny… Hey, we Canadians do NOT talk funny! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/49 "2016-07-15T17:44:01Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > Did you really and truly actually read that post? More importantly, did you understand it? I think TipTapTwo and the OP are one and the same entity. _Thought_ I had…is he not saying that who you feel yourself to be is who you really are, and we should be able to understand and respect those feelings of others? Well, that’s how I took it. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/50 "2016-07-15T18:01:09Z")
> [@12mgdaily](#): > > What Trans are you? I’d like to be Trans-12mgdaily so I could apologise for all the dumb shit in your OP. ---
**Author:** ![TipTapTwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/34f0e0/32.png) [@TipTapTwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TipTapTwo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/51 "2016-07-15T20:40:43Z")
[QUOTE=Dung Beetle] _Thought_ I had…is he not saying that who you feel yourself to be is who you really are, and we should be able to understand and respect those feelings of others? Well, that’s how I took it. [/QUOTE] Yes, exactly right, thank you. All of my extra words and quotes were just me trying to preemptively give cited support for my beliefs vs the common points of contention to trans-acceptance. We all tend to take the “face value” of things as true, and any further clarification/nuance we are made aware of later is seen in a suspicious light. We read in what we want and are not charitable in our interpretations, when we should be. Thus when people see an “obviously male or female” and are later told that they are in fact the other, or we go on a date with a lovely lady and later find out she has a penis, or see a post on a message board that can be taken in an ignorant light, we feel confused/suspicious and betrayed and attack the “offender” (the victim). Even after **12mgdaily** clearly stated that his intent of the thread was purely humorous, and meant to be read in a sarcastic voice, people still continued their old “sniping posts” rather than apologizing and learning for future reference that all posts/people should be approached from a charitable angle and read in a charitable/friendly manner. We are all friends here, right? No one would actually start a thread looking for a fight, just a friendly discussion or misinterpreted joke thread at worst. [QUOTE=12mgdaily] It’s difficult to understand the workings of the mind even under the beat of circumstances. In this completely black and white format, devoid of facial expressions and inflections of the voice, it is challenging really know what people are trying to convey. It really is my honest opinion that we should all be able to be whatever we deeply feel inside. And as long as that desire doesn’t come at the expense of harming another, we should all offer acceptance. [/QUOTE] See his apology and clarification? Now to play along with the intent of the thread, I would want be a Translater, not to be confused with a person who bridges communication gaps -a translator- I am too lazy for that. I always want to start my translation career mañana, tomorrow or the day after. I will get around to it later. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/52 "2016-07-15T20:53:45Z")
> [@TipTapTwo](#): > > Even after **12mgdaily** clearly stated that his intent of the thread was purely humorous, and meant to be read in a sarcastic voice, people still continued their old “sniping posts” rather than apologizing and learning for future reference that all posts/people should be approached from a charitable angle and read in a charitable/friendly manner. We are all friends here, right? No one would actually start a thread looking for a fight, just a friendly discussion or misinterpreted joke thread at worst. You think most of us couldn’t see the sarcasm? You think it’s a “joke” that he said this: > [@](#): > > I expect everyone to accommodate me in my quest to be what I am not, no matter how bogus, fictitious, phony, or false it is. I want equality with the rich. It is my right and people like me should be protected under the law. Bogus, fictitious, phony, and false. That’s our “trans” world. > [@](#): > > See his apology and clarification? I certainly don’t see an apology. Nor do I see a reply to the excellent question from oft wears hats above. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/53 "2016-07-15T20:58:48Z")
I want to be a trans woman. No wait shit that’s a dumb answer sorry. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/54 "2016-07-15T21:05:38Z")
I thought I would take a look at the illustrious OP’s history to see if this was all a big misunderstanding. I found this: > [@On the Topic of Transgenders](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-topic-of-transgenders/753980/304): > > If I was born feeling that I was really a dog inside, then had plastic surgery which gave me a doggie looking snout and had hair transplanted all over my body and I started moving around on 4 legs and said “woof - woof”… would you honestly believe I was really now a dog? I wouldn’t for one minute think that. I would think this is a PERSON who wants to pretend they are a dog. Genetically, they are still a person and can never be a dog. They can only pretend. So just because a man has plastic surgery to look anatomically like a woman, dresses like a woman and uses a woman’s restroom, does not in my mind alter the fact that genetically they are men. And the same holds true for women pretending to be men. I don’t care to what extents they go through in trying to achieve the illusion they are of the opposite sex. They will always be whatever sex they were born. Gosh, he’s just so misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/55 "2016-07-15T21:36:27Z")
I had also interpreted TipTapTwo’s post as providing some scientific evidence that questions the binary nature of gender, and suggesting that transgender people aren’t simply expressing a fickle or trivial preference. As in, supporting transgender rights. > [@jsgoddess](#): > > I thought I would take a look at the illustrious OP’s history to see if this was all a big misunderstanding. I found this: > > Gosh, he’s just so misunderstood. Yup. I remembered that post you quoted and interpreted the OP with that context in mind. Perhaps many of the other sniping posters did as well. To be fair, the OP hasn’t returned to this thread since I asked my question. I’m interested to see their response. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/56 "2016-07-15T21:39:16Z")
> [@On the Topic of Transgenders](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/on-the-topic-of-transgenders/753980/304): > > If I was born feeling that I was really a dog inside… As it happens, our former neighbors were a family whose last name was Tran, and so it was common in our house to refer to their pet as the Trans’ cat. After a while it occurred to me that that might sound odd or disrespectful out of context. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/57 "2016-07-16T05:04:55Z")
Would this make [Pamela Isley](https://www.google.com/search?q=pamela+isley&biw=1600&bih=799&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirod3WmvfNAhUE3SYKHcvTDVYQ_AUIBigB) a “transplant?” ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/58 "2016-07-16T05:12:05Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I thought I would take a look at the illustrious OP’s history to see if this was all a big misunderstanding. I found this: > > Gosh, he’s just so misunderstood. Doesn’t it just crack you up when people don’t understand how the search function works? It’s like their _own words_ aren’t even here, man. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/59 "2016-07-16T05:27:32Z")
Perhaps **12mgdaily** is not following the directions in his/her user name. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918/60 "2016-07-17T00:42:30Z")
Transplanetary. Because earth is too full of stupid people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-trans-would-you-like-to-be/759918.md?page=2)