# What Unconventional (but still good) Advice Do You Have?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 12, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691 "2018-02-12T16:08:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
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I was wasting time on Pinterest the other day when I saw a pin which gave this advice:

“Do your job slowly, but convince everyone that’s exactly how long it takes.”

After chuckling at that I realized it’s not actually bad advice. You won’t see it in any self-help book, and you probably aren’t going to hear it from your grandparets and sound life advice, but it’s still pretty good advice.

What other pieces of unconventional (but still good) advice do you have? I’m not talking about “save your money” or “seize the day” or things like that, I want some outside-the-box ideas.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/2 "2018-02-12T16:21:15Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I was wasting time on Pinterest the other day when I saw a pin which gave this advice:
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> “Do your job slowly, but convince everyone that’s exactly how long it takes.”
> 
> After chuckling at that I realized it’s not actually bad advice. You won’t see it in any self-help book, and you probably aren’t going to hear it from your grandparets and sound life advice, but it’s still pretty good advice.

Well, he didn’t quite phrase it like that, but my grandfather, who worked as a carpenter his whole life, often remarked that “You could tell that guy was being paid by the hour”, the implication being, he was taking his time to run up his paycheck.

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> What other pieces of unconventional (but still good) advice do you have? I’m not talking about “save your money” or “seize the day” or things like that, I want some outside-the-box ideas.

Related to the above, grandpa told me one time how there was a difference of opinion about whether workers should be paid for the time they spent sharpening their tools, and other such maintenance. So, on some jobs they were paid, and on others they weren’t. So, any time he got paid for this part of the job, he made a point of sharpening every tool he had, whether they needed it or not.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/3 "2018-02-12T16:30:59Z")

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Don’t say anything negative on company surveys.

As a good employee, you may think it’s important to be honest and point out flaws in company policies or manager behavior. You think that by giving constructive criticism, the company will take the advice to heart and make required changes. HA! That’s not the case. That will often backfire in may ways. First, the survey may not be totally anonymous or the manager may be able to identify you from comments you make on the survey. Second, bad reviews puts mangers in a bad mood, and they take it out on the employees. Just say positive and glowing things, especially about your manager. No matter what you say, nothing will change in the workplace, but if you say positive things, it can work out better for you.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/4 "2018-02-12T16:40:20Z")

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Back when I was a brand-new driver, my Uncle Walter told me “Never hit your brakes when you see a speed trap - it’s an admission of guilt.” He told me to just take my foot off the gas and be cool.

I’m not a speedy driver by any stretch of the imagination, but every time I pass a radar cop, I remember what my uncle said.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/5 "2018-02-12T16:40:57Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I was wasting time on Pinterest the other day when I saw a pin which gave this advice:
> 
> “Do your job slowly, but convince everyone that’s exactly how long it takes.”
> 
> After chuckling at that I realized it’s not actually bad advice. You won’t see it in any self-help book, and you probably aren’t going to hear it from your grandparets and sound life advice, but it’s still pretty good advice.

I’d say it is bad advice _in some contexts_. But then, that’s true of a lot of advice.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/6 "2018-02-12T19:10:02Z")

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Here’s one I heard recently that I’ve been thinking about:

Don’t persevere - be a quitter.

Rather than sticking with an activity or endeavor and working really hard at it, try a lot of things until you hit on one for which you have talent. This is contrary to what I’ve always believed, but I wonder if there might be something to it.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/7 "2018-02-12T21:48:57Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Back when I was a brand-new driver, my Uncle Walter told me “Never hit your brakes when you see a speed trap - it’s an admission of guilt.” He told me to just take my foot off the gas and be cool.
> 
> I’m not a speedy driver by any stretch of the imagination, but every time I pass a radar cop, I remember what my uncle said.

I’ve heard this same advice, but from a cop. He said that sudden changes in your driving catches more attention than simply going too fast.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/8 "2018-02-12T21:53:29Z")

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“Don’t apply logic to fix crazy”  
If your relative is a hoarder, teaching them organizational skills or cleaning techniques is not going to make them stop being a hoarder.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/9 "2018-02-12T22:11:26Z")

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When my dad was teaching me to drive back in the 70’s, he said “Watch out for guys who drive with their hats on.” Back then, they were all in their 80’s and learned to drive back when 35 mph was burning up the road. Nowadays, all the guys I notice with hats on are driving like total douches.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/10 "2018-02-13T14:11:40Z")

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On driving: don’t be polite, be consistent.

On nasty people: if they’ve done it to other people, they’ll eventually do it to you (despite how great they seem at first).

And a new classic from our Gatopescado in my car thread: “Jesus don’t need no toolbag.”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/11 "2018-02-13T14:22:23Z")

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Run your own boat. You cannot depend on anyone’s help. Yes, it’s wonderful when they give it, but always have a plan (and a back up plan) to do it yourself.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/12 "2018-02-13T14:46:12Z")

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“always have a cunt up your sleeve”

Apologies for the shock value of that word in such a polite thread but that is sort of the point. Keep forceful words and language for when you need it most otherwise you’ll drain it of power.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/13 "2018-02-13T15:01:02Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Back when I was a brand-new driver, my Uncle Walter told me “Never hit your brakes when you see a speed trap - it’s an admission of guilt.” He told me to just take my foot off the gas and be cool.
> 
> I’m not a speedy driver by any stretch of the imagination, but every time I pass a radar cop, I remember what my uncle said.

> [@xizor](#):
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> I’ve heard this same advice, but from a cop. He said that sudden changes in your driving catches more attention than simply going too fast.

My dad told me this too. If you can see the cop he’s already seen you and buzzed you, might as well just keep going because there ain’t nothing you can do about it anyway

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**Author:** ![AllShookDown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@AllShookDown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllShookDown)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/14 "2018-02-13T15:05:09Z")

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It’s better to be alone than to wish you were.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/15 "2018-02-13T15:09:11Z")

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Someone asked me a long time ago, when I was being overly insistent, if I would rather be right or be happy. I’ve tried to keep that in mind over the years.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/16 "2018-02-13T15:52:50Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Someone asked me a long time ago, when I was being overly insistent, if I would rather be right or be happy. I’ve tried to keep that in mind over the years.

That was what my mother always said about arguments, pick whether you want to be right or happy, because you will not be both.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Someone asked me a long time ago, when I was being overly insistent, if I would rather be right or be happy. I’ve tried to keep that in mind over the years.

nicely done Chefguy, you’ve given us sage advice while avoiding actually telling us which you’d prefer! 😃

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/18 "2018-02-13T17:02:01Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> Don’t say anything negative on company surveys.
> 
> As a good employee, you may think it’s important to be honest and point out flaws in company policies or manager behavior. You think that by giving constructive criticism, the company will take the advice to heart and make required changes. HA! That’s not the case. That will often backfire in may ways. First, the survey may not be totally anonymous or the manager may be able to identify you from comments you make on the survey. Second, bad reviews puts mangers in a bad mood, and they take it out on the employees. Just say positive and glowing things, especially about your manager. No matter what you say, nothing will change in the workplace, but if you say positive things, it can work out better for you.

I can testify to that. I was somewhat negative on the annual employee survey a few years ago, and then after I got called out on the carpet for something, my lead/manager mentioned that i was perceived as “negative” based on the supposedly anonymous survey. So I stopped completing the annual employee survey after that.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-unconventional-but-still-good-advice-do-you-have/808691/19 "2018-02-13T17:25:15Z")

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Your first day at a new job should match your work ethic. If you’re lazy then don’t work too hard otherwise they’ll expect that every day. If you’re ambitious do everything you can keep the expectations high.

If you finish everything on your to-do list every day then you don’t have enough to do.

This one is kind of dated in the modern paperless world:  
If something lands on your desk throw it away. If it’s important it will come back to you.

The best advice:  
Listen carefully to the advice of others, then ignore it.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
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As my banker once told me, “Neither a borrower nor a lender be".

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