# What warnings would you give to tourists to the US?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-warnings-would-you-give-to-tourists-to-the-us/443546 "2008-04-01T16:38:27Z")\
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[QUOTE=Hypno-Toad]  
Senator, is that you?  
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THAT was funny. 😃

> [@InvisibleWombat](#):
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> Women with certain accents (French and Russian come to mind) are likely to get hit on a lot. Many (most?) American men find the accents sexy.

Many American women find British accents sexy. I like British and Australian accents (but I am taken).

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> The U.S. is NOT a homogeneous society. Prices, politics, and attitudes vary wildly from place to place. We were just in Denver and a bar was advertising a “special” where you could get microbrewed beers for $4.00 a pint (I believe the standard price was $7.00. Around here, $3.00 is standard and $2.00 is common for a good microbrew.

Prices and availability of alcoholic beverages are particularly variable.

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> Generally speaking, Americans are tolerant of all religions in a “don’t-ask-don’t tell” sense. Catholics and Protestants don’t shoot each other here. If you’re not flaunting your religion, it’s unlikely anybody will ask you about it.

Don’t bash any religion, religion in general, atheism/agnosticism, being “spiritual but not religious”, or any opinion on religion when talking with anyone you don’t know well.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-warnings-would-you-give-to-tourists-to-the-us/443546/102 "2008-04-03T20:22:14Z")

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[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat]  
3) The U.S. is **NOT** a homogeneous society.  
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1. Be careful with political discussions. Even people who sit and grumble about the US government may get testy about foreigners bashing it.  
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2. Things are very different between large cities and small towns.  
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3. Very few sporting events here end in riots  
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Did you add these to make up the numbers, or do you really think that there’s any difference here between the US and just about any other country on the planet?

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I doubt very much that France would be called “homogenous” - when I went there about 25 years ago there was a diversity in cuisine, architecture, and language between regions. The family I stayed with in Clermont-Ferrond was multi-racial.

Nonetheless, to my American perception there was still a certain monotony. I mean, everywhere I went it was different, but it was also all _French_. (Not that that was in any way a negative). I had never realized _just how different_ the US is in many respects until I went to Europe.

I’ve rn into quite a few tourists visiting the US from other places who likewise have observed that, while all countries have internal variations, with the US some regional differences seem greater than in a place like Europe, despite the fact everyone (supposedly) speaks the same language, has the same government, uses the same money…

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And all eats at Chili’s! 😃

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[QUOTE=Broomstick]  
…a place like Europe, despite the fact everyone (supposedly) speaks the same language, has the same government, uses the same money…  
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Huh?  
Seriously, I get the point, and it’s kind of reflected in the way you phrased this…the sheer scale of the US creates the diversity one would expect from 300m people. It’s easy for Europeans to forget that they live in a small place which, while itself also not at all homogenous, is also geographically minute compared to California or Texas. That’s the point at which they need to go on a quick mental tour from Athens to Dublin, via Helsinki…same money, after all 😉

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
Where is ‘cunt’ not a deadly insult? Is that some Australian usage?  
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On the off chance that you aren’t joking, some of our members from places in northern UK (maybe OZ, too, I’m not sure) speak of guys calling other guys “cunt” without any offense meant.

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
On the off chance that you aren’t joking, some of our members from places in northern UK (maybe OZ, too, I’m not sure) speak of guys calling other guys “cunt” without any offense meant.  
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Yes, it’s all about context. You don’t even have you be a dirty northerner for that to be the case.

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[QUOTE=AskNott]  
On the off chance that you aren’t joking, some of our members from places in northern UK (maybe OZ, too, I’m not sure) speak of guys calling other guys “cunt” without any offense meant.  
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I don’t know if he (or she) was kidding or not but I’ve never heard of it being used as anything other than as the most disparaging of terms. My wife glance over my shoulder at this thread and asked why I was reading it. I told her that I started it and she said, “You started a thread about THAT??” She just saw the “c” word, not the thread title.

I cannot stress strongly enough that this word is never used in polite society in the US.

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Make sure you can use the toilet (and the paper)!! For Europeans, this isn’t a problem. The rest of the world (in general) might want to do a crash course before coming over.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-warnings-would-you-give-to-tourists-to-the-us/443546/110 "2008-04-03T22:33:58Z")

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[QUOTE=niblet\_head]  
And all eats at Chili’s!  
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No we don’t, you Crackpot Heretic Hillbilly! 😃

That was intended as a joke and I intend no personal offense, niblet\_head, besides which your nom sounds like a self-depreciating insult!

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-warnings-would-you-give-to-tourists-to-the-us/443546/111 "2008-04-03T23:55:03Z")

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There was a comedian giving advice to white newcomers in Hawaii:

Tip #1: Tip!

Tip #2: Stay in Waikiki. The further you go out, the darker the skin gets, TURN AROUND!

It was meant to be funny, because this comedian his act is making fun of all the different races and cultures in Hawaii. But this could also describe many of the cities in the US, sadly.

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[QUOTE=Chimera]  
No we don’t, you Crackpot Heretic Hillbilly!  
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Did I say Chili’s?? Sorry. Meant Applebees!

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[QUOTE=An Gadaí]  
I’ve had people being iffy about my passport as age ID in the US before. I thought it was bizarre, “I got into your goddamn country on this thing and you won’t let me buy a drink with it???”  
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As lame as it is, the reason is that the customs officer had an idea of what that thing was you were handing over. The penalties for taking some jive document and serving alcohol to an underage customer are severe. I would likely expect to be summarily fired if it were proved, and the business would at least I think be warned about maintaining its liquor license. So your more bumpkin establishments especially are going to be pretty wary.

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[QUOTE=An Gadaí]  
The main warning would be that (apart from Canadians, Russians or Australians) foreign tourists come from countries on an entirely smaller scale so that the things to see are much further apart than you would ever anticipate having never visited before.

Some American highways, I’m specifically thinking of ones I’ve encountered in NYC and Chicago might be seriously daunting for drivers from Ireland, and other countries where even motorways are only just becoming the norm. Our motorways usually have two lanes or at most three lanes.

There are many parts of the country (New England for example) where deer are a hazard to driving also.  
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The Europeans I’ve met here are always astonished by the size of the country. “We were on the train from Chicago to L.A. for TWO DAYS!” Those same people got off the train next to Angels Stadium in Anaheim and wanted to walk to Vineyard church (Next to Yorba Linda, for those of you familiar with the area). “How far can it be? We’re IN Anaheim.” Well, it’s about 10 miles. Anaheim is a major town around here.

One of the things that really jumps out at them also is all the American flags. There just isn’t this idea of close neighbors that would be offended, like apparently there is in much of Europe. And the pledge of allegiance strikes many of them like something out of a Stalinist “re-education” camp (well, me too, a little).

Oh, and regarding the “c-word”, if you hear some little granny say something about “fanny”, she really isn’t swearing. Really. I know what it means in many other countries, but it’s just a very granny way of saying “butt” in America. Like my buddy forgot and used it at the podium in front of the whole church he was visiting in Australia. It’s that mild a word, that he got the reaction before he remembered.

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[QUOTE=elfkin477]

**Crocodiles And Boulevards** probably lives far away from me, which illustates another point: there are vastly different levels of danger to people depending on where in the country you visit. If you want safe, come to New Hampshire or Vermont. Less than 20 murders a year in both states (in 2006 your odds of being murdered in NH were all of 1 in 100,000, so that’s 13 people for the year). You might die of boredom or freeze to death, but no one will harm you.

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Yeah, for some reason, every Korean I know wants to go to LA, NY, or New Jersey. :dubious:

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[QUOTE=beowulff]  
In Arizona and the deserts of California, always carry extra water if you are going on a desert tour by yourself.  
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A minor correction: If you plan on going on a desert tour by yourself, _don’t._ It can be a long way from someone wandering by and finding you if you get hurt.

Oh, and in case someone didn’t bring this up or not (I have only read the first page of this thread, and I have to go run off in a minute): The US is big. Really big. It’s worth mentioning again, because it’s a whole new kind of big, especially as you move west. Corn as far as the eye can see, from an airplane traveling at 35,000 feet (unless it’s cloudy, then it’s clouds as far as the eye can see 🙂 ).

Also, just because two cities are in the same state, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re close to each other. El Paso, Texas is closer to Los Angeles, California than it is to Houston, Texas (then again, El Paso is kinda way the hell out in the middle of nowhere, as far as Texan cities go).

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I want to say a few things about mountains. The mountains in the western US are big. Really big. And tall. If you go to a mountain state, you’re probably higher up in altitude than you think. Sunscreen is a must, as it is very easy to get a sunburn bad enough to cause blistering. Drink a lot of water, even if you are not thirsty. Don’t push your self too hard, either. [Altitude Sickness](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_sickness) can kill you, or at least make you wish it had. Once that sun goes down though, it can get cold. Really cold. Same thing if you get caught in a thunderstorm. If you are in the mountains (Rockies and the Sierra-Nevada are the ones I’m most familiar with) always carry a jacket.

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Given all that’s been posted, I’m wondering if a warning to tourists to the US should say:

Come to Canada.

The crime rate is lower ([cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada#Comparisons)); bars, restaurants, nightclubs, liquor and beer stores know what a passport is and accept it as valid proof of age; and Canadian banks are ready to change your Euros and Sterling into local currency without any hassle. The summer weather is just as hot and humid in southern Ontario as you’d find in Florida. Skiing is just as good in Alberta as in Colorado, the Northern Lights in northern Canada are just as good as in Alaska, and the mountains are just as purple and majestic as they are in the US, as are the amber waves of grain on the Prairies. And if (through an honest error, I’m sure), you tip less than 20%, the server will not hate you forever. We pay our servers far more than the US minimum wage ([cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_wages_in_Canada)).

We also won’t make you take off your shoes when you leave, we won’t treat you like a terrorist if you look foreign (remember what the US did to [Maher Arar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maher_Arar), namely, deport him to a country that wasn’t his home and the US didn’t even bother to tell Canada, on whose passport he was travelling), and we realize that there is more than one language in the world. Chances are that somebody here speaks the same language you do.

Why go to the US when the best tourist destination is right next door?

:: d&r ::

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[QUOTE=Spoons]

Why go to the US when the best tourist destination is right next door?

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Because there are things you can’t see or experience in Canada that you **can** experience in the USA, and, of course, vice versa.

Joe

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[QUOTE=wheresgeorge04]  
Because there are things you can’t see or experience in Canada that you **can** experience in the USA, and, of course, vice versa.

Joe  
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Such as the mysterious Jackalope, native to the US. 😃

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