# What was Gomez Addams?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 29, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644 "2005-12-29T22:41:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/61 "2015-08-31T17:27:30Z")

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I always saw Gomez as representing the old money aristocracy, more than a little deranged from generations of inbreeding and an insular social life. A sort of House of Usher kind of meme.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/62 "2015-08-31T17:30:41Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Take a look at[these](http://www.flickriver.com/photos/28326190@N08/tags/yvonnedecarlo/) other pics of Yvonne De Carlo. Out of character, Carolyn Jones had nothing on Yvonne.

I understand Wednesday developed a bit of front story years later.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/63 "2015-08-31T17:34:20Z")

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Munsters arguably had a better theme song. As catchy as the Addams Family theme is, it’s very 1960s-dorky. Even Will Smith couldn’t do much with it.

But that bassy, jazzy Munsters theme… up there with Hawaii Five-Oh, IMVHO. Do I keep hearing a sample of it in some current pop composition?

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/64 "2015-08-31T17:36:23Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Take a look at[these](http://www.flickriver.com/photos/28326190@N08/tags/yvonnedecarlo/) other pics of Yvonne De Carlo. Out of character, Carolyn Jones had nothing on Yvonne.

My god what a porker!

(Sorry, just anticipating all the millennial responses…)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/65 "2015-08-31T19:17:24Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> But that bassy, jazzy Munsters theme… up there with Hawaii Five-Oh, IMVHO. Do I keep hearing a sample of it in some current pop composition?

Yes, you do - or at least, _I_ do, and I assume you’re hearing the same song.

I’ve only heard it maybe 3 times, though, so I haven’t ID’d it yet.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/66 "2015-08-31T19:30:00Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yes, you do - or at least, _I_ do, and I assume you’re hearing the same song.
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> I’ve only heard it maybe 3 times, though, so I haven’t ID’d it yet.

Just googled it - it’s [“Uma Thurman” by Fall Out Boy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBswx7GEARc).

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/67 "2015-08-31T19:46:42Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> I understand Wednesday developed a bit of front story years later.

Lisa Loring- if the images search is anything to go by, she’s ok but nothing spectacular.

> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> My god what a porker!
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> (Sorry, just anticipating all the millennial responses…)

_ **Marilyn Monroe** _, the Sex Goddess herself, would be considered a porker today.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/68 "2015-08-31T20:18:38Z")

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> [@Sage\_Rat](#):
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> It looks like Chas Addams did want him to be a “latin lover” type.

Are you saying that _[this](http://www.charlesaddams.com/tshirt-gomez.shtml)_ is intended to look like a Latin lover???

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/69 "2015-08-31T20:22:34Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Morticia was presented as a more overtly sexual character than Lily Munster, it is true. However, Yvonne De Carlo was [smoking hot](http://www.flickriver.com/photos/28326190@N08/5916853038/). Her character’s make-up and costume, alas, obscured that she was a beautiful woman. Carolyn Jones, also a hottie, had the benefit of a costume that accentuated her charms.

It’s amazing how much she resembles Vivien Leigh in that particular photo.

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**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/70 "2015-08-31T20:24:00Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Munsters arguably had a better theme song. As catchy as the Addams Family theme is, it’s very 1960s-dorky. Even Will Smith couldn’t do much with it.

But [Sinatra’s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VDZRR3rN3Q) version isn’t bad.\*

_No, that’s not the real Frank, just an incredible_\* simulation.  
\*\*in·cred·i·ble (adj) Impossible to believe.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/71 "2015-08-31T21:54:31Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Neither family believed themselves to be different from everybody else. That is the central joke of both shows. The Munsters thought themselves a typical blue collar family. The Addamses had inherited wealth and lived more lavishly, but still did not consider themselves different from their neighbors.

But their viewpoint was different. It’s been said that the Munsters believed that they were like everyone else, while the Addams Family thought that everyone else was like them.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/72 "2015-08-31T22:11:20Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Take a look at[these](http://www.flickriver.com/photos/28326190@N08/tags/yvonnedecarlo/) other pics of Yvonne De Carlo. Out of character, Carolyn Jones had nothing on Yvonne.

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Cara Mia!!!\*\*\*

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/73 "2015-08-31T22:11:27Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> _ **Marilyn Monroe** _, the Sex Goddess herself, would be considered a porker today.

I think you missed the snark factor, there. (Glances up at portrait of Marilyn on the office wall.)

That women with some shape and curves besides melon tits are considered “too fat” is one of the best pieces of evidence we have that societal view of women is sick.

I can’t quite imagine who thinks a tangle of coathangers with a pair of soccer balls in front and fat lips is sexy. So get off my lawn.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/74 "2015-08-31T22:13:16Z")

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He was creepy and kooky…although they were all a little spooky.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/75 "2015-08-31T22:56:53Z")

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> [@Cartoonacy](#):
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> Are you saying that _[this](http://www.charlesaddams.com/tshirt-gomez.shtml)_ is intended to look like a Latin lover???

I was referencing the Wikipedia page:

“John Astin had long sessions with Addams and series producer David Levy, who gave him free rein in developing the character. Enlarging on Addam’s description of Gomez as a Latin lover type, Astin suggested the eye-rolling, pencil moustache, and ardent devotion to Morticia.”

Presumably, he was talking about the TV character not the comic character.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/76 "2015-08-31T22:59:30Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Take a look at[these](http://www.flickriver.com/photos/28326190@N08/tags/yvonnedecarlo/) other pics of Yvonne De Carlo. Out of character, Carolyn Jones had nothing on Yvonne.

True enough. But the _character_ of Morticia was sexier than the _character_ of Lily. It’s like how Lily Aldrin is sexier than Willow Rosenberg.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/77 "2015-08-31T23:02:08Z")

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I thought Gomez was the one human in the family? Just like Marilyn was the one human in the Munsters.

Gomez was a Latin Lover and had swept Lilly off her feet. But I always thought he was the one human in that family. I thought the others were different. Vampires, hunchbacks and other creatures.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/78 "2015-08-31T23:03:48Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I thought Gomez was the one human in the family? Just like Marilyn was the one human in the Munsters.
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> Gomez was a Latin Lover and had swept Lilly off her feet. But I always thought he was the one human in that family. I thought the others were different. Vampires, hunchbacks and other creatures.

Hunchbacks aren’t human?

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/79 "2015-08-31T23:08:04Z")

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It depends on the story. Haven’t hunchbacks and gargoyles been used in horror? They are presented as other worldly creatures. Scary and misunderstood.

The only one I’m vaguely familiar with is the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I haven’t watched that movie since my teen years.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/80 "2015-08-31T23:15:59Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It depends on the story. Haven’t hunchbacks and gargoyles been used in horror? They are presented as other worldly creatures. Scary and misunderstood.
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> The only one I’m vaguely familiar with is the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I haven’t watched that movie since my teen years.

Hunchbacks are not otherworldly creatures.

They’re just a little bent.

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