# What was Gomez Addams?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 29, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644 "2005-12-29T22:41:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/81 "2015-08-31T23:47:21Z")

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Uncle Fester lit light bulbs in his mouth. I’m not sure where the OP got the idea he was a hunchback. I was just rolling with it, but now I don’t think he was.

IIRC they never gave much backstory on any of the family members. They were just this odd famly.  
They’re creepy and they’re kooky, mysterious and spooky. They’re Altogether ooky the Addams Family.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/82 "2015-08-31T23:48:05Z")

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Whenever I think of an eccentric millionaire, I think of Gomez.

I agree with **Amateur** about the Muenster’s theme song. It’s a catchier a tune. But that was the only thing about the show that I really liked.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/83 "2015-08-31T23:49:15Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> True enough. But the _character_ of Morticia was sexier than the _character_ of Lily. It’s like how Lily Aldrin is sexier than Willow Rosenberg.

For certain definitions of sexy and certain versions of Morticia, perhaps. Carolyn Jones Morticia yes, Anjelica Huston Morticia, yes but less so. All other Morticias…no.

I did not know until this moment that there had been six Lily Munsters!

> **[Lily Munster](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Munster)**
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> Lily Munster (née Dracula) is a fictional character in the CBS sitcom, The Munsters, originally played by Yvonne De Carlo. The matriarch of the Munster household, Lily is a vampire. The role was later played by Lee Meriwether in The Munsters Today and by Portia de Rossi in the unsold 2012 pilot Mockingbird Lane.
> Lily was first introduced in the second pilot episode and is the only family member to not appear in the original pilot episode. In the original pilot Herman was married to another woman...

I am familiar only with Yvonne De Carlo’s Lily. That Lily was not an overtly sexual character and had a very modest costume. The other actresses were all attractive women, were their versions of Lily amped up sexually over the original as Anjelica Morticia was over Carolyn Morticia?

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/84 "2015-08-31T23:53:51Z")

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> **[Mockingbird Lane (2012)](https://www.imdb.com/media/rm2638851584/tt2130271?ref_=tt_ov_i)**
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> Jerry O'Connell, Portia de Rossi, Eddie Izzard, Charity Wakefield, and Mason Cook in Mockingbird Lane (2012)

Portia Rossi appears to have been a rather sexy Lily…

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/85 "2015-09-01T00:26:35Z")

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Lurch is the most!

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/86 "2015-09-01T02:03:20Z")

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While he may have been the most “normal” looking one Gomez IMO was the most overtly mentally offbeat character on the show. Money meant nothing to him, he was a financial genius with endless resources, a lover of destruction for it’s own sake and his mood would turn on a dime.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/87 "2015-09-01T02:16:27Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Munsters arguably had a better theme song. As catchy as the Addams Family theme is, it’s very 1960s-dorky. Even Will Smith couldn’t do much with it.

Will Smith? Or Hammer?

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/88 "2015-09-01T19:07:47Z")

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The Munsters were literally characters out of the Universal Monsters franchise.

The Addamses were more subtle. They were the seemingly respectable neighbors whom you suspected might harbor dark secrets.  
Gomez was the wealthy gentleman you suspected of being a serial killer.  
Morticia was the woman you suspected of being a black widow.  
Uncle Fester was the guy you suspected was a pedophile.  
Pugsley was the maladjusted kid who broke your toys, and whom you suspected when your pets disappeared.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/89 "2015-09-01T19:17:50Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> The Munsters were literally characters out of the Universal Monsters franchise.
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> The Addamses were more subtle. They were the seemingly respectable neighbors whom you suspected might harbor dark secrets.  
> Gomez was the wealthy gentleman you suspected of being a serial killer.  
> Morticia was the woman you suspected of being a black widow.  
> Uncle Fester was the guy you suspected was a pedophile.  
> Pugsley was the maladjusted kid who broke your toys, and whom you suspected when your pets disappeared.

Lurch was the goon who broke legs and dumped people in the river.  
Grandmama was the crazy old neighbor lady who was possibly a cannibal.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/90 "2015-09-01T19:40:53Z")

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And Wednesday? What/who was Wednesday?

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/91 "2015-09-01T19:42:41Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> The Munsters were literally characters out of the Universal Monsters franchise.
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> The Addamses were more subtle. They were the seemingly respectable neighbors whom you suspected might harbor dark secrets.  
> Gomez was the wealthy gentleman you suspected of being a serial killer.  
> Morticia was the woman you suspected of being a black widow.  
> Uncle Fester was the guy you suspected was a pedophile.  
> Pugsley was the maladjusted kid who broke your toys, and whom you suspected when your pets disappeared.

See, now if the tv shows and movies had run with this take on things, the franchise would actually deserve its reputation for being dark and subversive. As it stands, the Jones/Astin and Julia/Huston chemistry is 90% of what is good about The Addams Family.

The 1313 Mockingbird Lane re-imagining of The Munsters with Portia Rossi as Lily to which I linked above seems to have been a genuinely dark take on that franchise…and it has no better than a cult following. I suspect a truly dark and subversive version of The Addams Family would fare no better.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/92 "2015-09-01T20:04:13Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> And Wednesday? What/who was Wednesday?

She was an awesome [dance instructor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3jnymeJof4).

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/93 "2015-09-01T20:11:01Z")

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> [@MovieMogul](#):
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> She was an awesome [dance instructor](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3jnymeJof4).

Nice!

But I meant in the spirit of the descriptions by **mbh** and **Lumpy** , what were her quirks and peculiarities? Or was she \<_shudder_\> **normal**? 😉

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/94 "2015-09-01T20:13:04Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> And Wednesday? What/who was Wednesday?

Lizzie Borden - without the axe.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/95 "2015-09-01T20:15:11Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> And Wednesday? What/who was Wednesday?

Wednesday was the one who really killed your pets. 🙂

Wednesday was the shy, quiet girl who kept to herself. When you first met her, you suspected her parents were abusing her. When you got to know her better, you suspected she was abusing them.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/96 "2015-09-01T23:50:08Z")

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At least in the cartoons Wednesday was more waif-like. She was the Little Girl Lost In Monsterland.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/97 "2015-09-02T00:03:07Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Nice!
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> But I meant in the spirit of the descriptions by **mbh** and **Lumpy** , what were her quirks and peculiarities? Or was she \<_shudder_\> **normal**? 😉

Her name comes from this poem:

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> Monday’s child is fair of face,  
> Tuesday’s child is full of grace,  
> **Wednesday’s child is full of woe …**

She especially enjoyed [playing with her Marie Antoinette doll.](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ioe077IbaB8/UMcFil9xMkI/AAAAAAAABfU/WqJCBvpSu4k/s1600/AddamsArt_childsplay.png)

Per Wiki:

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> In Addams’ cartoons, Wednesday is originally a pale, dark-haired, grim-looking little girl who is fascinated with death and the macabre. She seldom smiles.
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> In the 1960s series, she is significantly more sweet-natured, although her favorite hobby is raising spiders; she is also a ballerina. Wednesday’s favorite toy is her Marie Antoinette doll, which her brother guillotines (at her request). . . In one episode, she is shown to have several other headless dolls as well. She also paints pictures (including a picture of trees with human heads) and writes a poem dedicated to her favorite pet spider, Homer. . . .
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> In the 1991 film, she is depicted closer to the original cartoons. She shows sadistic tendences and a dark personality, and is revealed to have a deep interest in the Bermuda Triangle and an admiration for an ancestor (Great Aunt Calpurnia Addams) who was burned as a witch in 1706. In the 1993 sequel she was even darker: buried alive a cat, tried to kill her brother Pubert, destroyed Camp Chippewa and (presumably) scared to death her boyfriend Joel.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-gomez-addams/337644/98 "2015-09-02T00:08:21Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Lisa Loring- if the images search is anything to go by, she’s ok but nothing spectacular.
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> _ **Marilyn Monroe** _, the Sex Goddess herself, would be considered a porker today.

She was married to a porn star named Jerry butler, and did makeup for them, I think. The question was how close she was to the action.

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