# What was I being offered for $600 at a Houston strip club? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 28, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742 "2014-03-28T05:24:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/81 "2014-04-03T16:18:30Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I was a driver for almost 10 years starting in the early to mid 80s, the northern half of New Jersey, Staten Island, and lower New York State. So; go-go bars, a handful of full nudity “juice bars”, and topless bars in NY. > One prostitute (who was more _rumored to be_ than _we’re actually know this_), > one former prostitute, > less than a dozen that would do “side work” at bachelor parties, > out of the ~400 - 500 women that my brother was an “agent” for, over more than a decade. > > Absolutely none of the bars that I was familiar with would have tolerated, for a second, any dancer soliciting in their bars. Their liquor license was far too valuable and under constant threat of loss for things like “flashing” and dancers allowing too much contact when taking tips. > > Any general statement about “strippers” is, almost, always wrong! > > CMC fnord! You do realize you are talking about experiences from over a quarter century ago right? Your strip club experience is no more valid today than a mid 50s strip club experience is comparable to yours. Prostitution is the norm now, strippers are either prostitutes or complaining non stop about prostitutes ruining it for them. Instead of asking why a stripper would sell sex you should be asking why a prostitute would not work as a stripper. A week or so ago we had a thread about a little girl scout setting up shop outside a medical marijuana dispensary and making bank, everyone understands how that was a genius move. Prostitutes working strip clubs is the same thing, it makes perfect sense for any half decent looking prostitute to be a stripper. Strip clubs make their money of the girls as much as they do from the customers. They are not employees, they are independent contractors. They have to pay to use the premises, it is entirely possible and not uncommon for girls to go to work and lose money. That’s why the guy in the OP was getting charged 600 bucks, he is paying for a prostitute and for a VIP room, they are two completely different things and both clock in at several hundred bucks. If you want to bang a stripper that bad make arrangements with her to meet outside the club, there is no reason why you should be paying 2-300 bucks extra just for use of the room. Most will be agreeable since they don’t get any of that money anyways. As far as the “vip scams” go, i have a very hard time believing that. Not in the internet age when word gets around, a club can survive a prostitution raid but not that. As a regular customer i have never had it happen, heard of it happening to anyone or seen it happen. It makes no sense at all to scam people when the service they offer makes them so much money already. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/82 "2014-04-03T17:06:59Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Basically I just like hanging out, drinking and watching topless girls dance. Plus it’s not illegal and relationship safe -as in my wife will just roll her eyes if I come home with stripper glitter on me, as opposed to divorcing me. Like anything, a little is a refreshing diversion. Too much starts to get into creepy problem territory. > > Speaking of which, I don’t know why they wear that glitter. It doesn’t make them sexier and your wife or girlfriend knows what that shit all over your clothes is from Makes sense, I’d rather just hang out and drink without the strippers but can understand. You’re right about glitter, that shit gets everywhere and just when you think it’s gone you catch a sparkle somewhere. I cringe when I run into someone wearing it. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/83 "2014-04-03T19:19:33Z")
I think we can all agree that pimpin’ got harder because hos got smarter. ---
**Author:** ![Bookishbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecc23a/32.png) [@Bookishbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookishbabe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/84 "2015-11-05T22:09:21Z")
It totally depends on the club. I danced for a year or so not all that long ago, and there was virtually no “prostitution” at that club. There was one girl who did things like that, and a group of us confronted her we we realized it and made it clear that we didn’t appreciate someone trying to take money away from those of us who were not having sex with the customers. Several of us did make a lot of money without supplying such “extras.” That said, I know that there are plenty of places where it does happen quite often. (I’m in Houston, and there is a whole range of types of strip clubs here.) Still, saying all strippers are, or are not, a certain way does nothing but show how ignorant you are. Unless you have witnessed, or partaken in, sex with a stripper at at club, or multiple clubs, your argument doesn’t hold much weight. And to the poster from earlier, who “explained” the economics of the industry and how it doesn’t make sense monetarily for them to not prostitite themselves – you’re an idiot. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![scootergirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@scootergirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scootergirl)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/85 "2015-11-05T22:32:41Z")
> [@jfreakofkorn](#): > > stripper is another word for prostitute … This is an exaggeration and a generalization. Sure, many of them are, but your statement reads as \*all. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/86 "2015-11-05T23:51:58Z")
You know what this reminds me of? Yep, that’s right. [Zombie Strippers](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0960890/) ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/87 "2015-11-06T01:12:24Z")
I would say, Welcome to the dope\*\* Bookishbabe\*\*. It is refreshing to see sentence structure and the free use of punctuation in a new poster reviving a zombie thread about strippers and prostitution. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/88 "2015-11-06T01:29:21Z")
> [@Greg\_Charles](#): > > You know what this reminds me of? Yep, that’s right. > > [Zombie Strippers](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0960890/) Totally appropriate. But although it isn’t quite as on topic, I actually liked [Frankenhooker](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099611/) a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/89 "2015-11-06T02:08:06Z")
> [@Bookishbabe](#): > > And to the poster from earlier, who “explained” the economics of the industry and how it doesn’t make sense monetarily for them to not prostitite themselves – you’re an idiot. 🙂 Welcome to the Straight Dope. We don’t allow personal insults in this forum (or any other forum outside of the Pit), so please don’t do this again. Otherwise, enjoy your time here. ---
**Author:** ![stui\_magpie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stui_magpie/32/11010_2.png) [@stui\_magpie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stui_magpie)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/90 "2015-11-06T04:40:29Z")
I was in Vegas recently and went to one of the strip clubs. It was pretty quiet and I ended up having a good chat with one of the strippers over a few drinks. The personal dances ranged from around $20 for a quick wiggle to around $500 for an hour in a VIP area. This chick wasn’t a hooker or a scammer, I asked the price ranges, she told me. She had to pay a fee to the club to do a shift. Basically an entry fee. She was also at the end of her shift expected to tip the DJ and a couple of other service areas so yeah, it’s possible on a bad night to do a shift and be out of pocket at the end. She was actually employed and was studying and did the stripping a few shifts a week for extra coin. She was good at it too. I got a $50 personal dance that even though she kept her bikini bottom on and my pants stayed on and fly zipped and hands stayed (mostly) by my sides etc etc was well worth it ---
**Author:** ![edwardcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cab0a1/32.png) [@edwardcoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwardcoast)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/91 "2015-11-06T05:10:09Z")
> [@pancakes3](#): > > Um… no? The OP definitely was not being offered sex. To quote Chris Rock there is NO sex in the champagne room. That’s not a joke. It’s just a private room where you get your own private lap dances, and get to touch her some. It’s a more intimate experience and sometimes, if you’re lucky, she’ll use her hands on your junk but there is definitely no insertion into any orifice. > > Strippers aren’t prostitutes trolling for johns. They’re dancers who happen to get interactive with the clientele. Assuming strippers are prostitutes will get you into a good bit of trouble at a strip club. Some do, and you can try to explore that by asking about private, off-site, private strip shows, etc. but there will be no sex done on the premises. This is what I was also led to believe until I went to a stripclub with a group as part of a bachelor’s party. The dancers came over to all of us, asked if we wanted to go to the VIP room or whatever it was called. One young single guy with us took her up on the offer. We ended up leaving without him, the limo was there, and he wasn’t. The next day, I was told by his close friends that he called them to tell them he had intercourse with the dancer in the VIP room. She was giving him a lap dance, and I don’t know how much he already paid by then, but she said for another $100.00 he could get inside her. He used a condom, and she did him cowgirl-style. He said he didn’t finish, which might be because he had been drinking a lot that evening. This was a well known large stripclub and a nice looking place. I was surprised by his story and he told his friends he was going back there the next day to try to hook-up with her again. He tried, but she wasn’t working and of course the business wouldn’t give him any contact information for her. This was a large stripclub and looked like a nice place, although this is the one and only stripclub I’ve ever been to. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/92 "2015-11-06T05:55:15Z")
> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#): > > To be clear, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with dating/marrying a stripper, or that there’s anything wrong with people who do. Quite the contrary, it seems to be a common male fantasy, and some people make it work. I know this thread is 2 years old but… There’s something a little “wrong” with marrying a stripper. That is to say, of maybe three or four friends of mine who have married strippers, exactly “zero” I’m like “wow, your relationship seems like it’s going really well.” Mostly I find myself saying things like… “Wow, that’s great that after buying your wife out of her contract, you no longer need to fear angry reprisals from the Russian mob.” “No, I don’t think it would be appropriate for your to bring your mistress to a company happy hour.” “I can’t imaging why marrying your best friend’s ex girlfriend who happens to be a Russian stripper and needs a green card could be a bad idea.” “I understand you’re upset that your wife won’t look for a job. However, given her particular skill set from her last job, I don’t really think you can submit her resume to HR and get her a job with our bankruptcy restructuring practice.” “We can’t go to that strip club where you met your wife because it got busted for prostitution? That’s too bad. So where are we partying tonight, ‘Richard Gere’?” ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/93 "2015-11-06T06:23:44Z")
cowgirl-style? Ya got photos? ---
**Author:** ![edwardcoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cab0a1/32.png) [@edwardcoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwardcoast)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/94 "2015-11-06T12:40:49Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > cowgirl-style? Ya got photos? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman\_on\_top](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_on_top) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/95 "2015-11-06T12:51:34Z")
This ain’t your first rodeo, huh. ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/96 "2015-11-06T15:34:49Z")
For people who want the thoughts and perspectives of actual strippers, try here. Be warned, however, that some of them are bitter man-haters. [https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forum.php](https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forum.php) If you want the thoughts and perspectives of customers, go here. Caveat: you’ll have to either pay or else contribute to the site in order to read the full reviews of clubs. [https://www.tuscl.net/](https://www.tuscl.net/) ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/97 "2015-11-06T18:33:15Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I know this thread is 2 years old but… > > There’s something a little “wrong” with marrying a stripper. That is to say, of maybe three or four friends of mine who have married strippers, exactly “zero” I’m like “wow, your relationship seems like it’s going really well.” Mostly I find myself saying things like… Well, these men at least get some from their wives pretty often, and they are pretty hot, right? ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/98 "2015-11-06T18:42:27Z")
Look, I didn’t mention this when I wrote the OP, but I have had “it happen” the one time I actually paid to go to VIP. It wasn’t $600, either. I read on one of the review sites about the shadiest club in Dallas. So, after visiting Dallas on business, I stopped by on my way out of town. TLDR, I paid about 50 bucks for VIP (cheap, here), and the stripper started giving me a lap dance. So far, it was no biggie. I didn’t actually know what I was going to get, she just sold me on VIP, implying it might be some good stuff, and I knew that good stuff was supposedly available at this club. It was an attractive, tall Caucasian woman with a fairly nice body and long brown hair, so… Anyways, I was going to go into more explicit detail, but I’m not sure what the board policy is. To summarize, I agreed to pay $250, she acted like she was going to tease me and then started riding me bareback. I didn’t agree to this, and I remember mentally thinking “man, consent doesn’t really mean a damn thing if she’s an attractive woman and you’re a hetero man. My big head wants to say no, I don’t want STDs or pregnancy, but I am literally incapable of stopping or even saying no.” So the act continued until the obvious conclusion. I did not feel raped afterwards, I just felt spent. It made me wonder if rape really is impossible if it’s attractive woman on hetero man. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/99 "2015-11-07T00:25:12Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > I have no idea what may or may not have happened at the specific place you were at. She may be a stripper/prostitute. > > But I can tell you what happens all the time in clubs around here. You pay the money, and when you get back to the VIP room the girl is gone. For the night. > You get pissed and demand your money back or the girl. When you get nothing but deer in headlights looks from all the other employees you get super pissed and start yelling and screaming. > > And the bouncers beat the shit out of you and throw you out on your ass! > > Then you think you’re smart and you call the police. The cops seem more interested in your disorderly conduct inside the place, and your admission that you paid for sex. When you realize you sound as stupid as the guys who report their drugs being stolen you decide to STFU and drop your complaint. Later on the 2 officers sit in their car laughing hysterically. “_20 years on the job and I never get tired of that one_” one says. > > A guy should get college credits for a lesson like that!😉 Was that you with me that night?😉 ---
**Author:** ![bethewave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@bethewave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bethewave)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742/100 "2015-11-07T01:01:22Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > So the act continued until the obvious conclusion. I did not feel raped afterwards, I just felt spent. **It made me wonder if rape really is impossible if it’s attractive woman on hetero man.** Bolding mine, obviously. Whaaaaat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-i-being-offered-for-600-at-a-houston-strip-club/684742.md?page=6)