# What Was So Evil About Wesley Crusher? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 28, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086 "2003-02-28T08:26:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/61 "2003-03-01T23:42:30Z")
I’m going to have to putz out on both of those questions. Sorry. Seems to me that Alexander lived with his grandparents for a long time before we met him, and I’m not sure either of these questions was ever explicitly addressed on the show. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2003, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/62 "2003-03-01T23:46:08Z")
IIRC, Jack Crusher died on an away mission that Picard either led or ordered him to. Alex’s mommy was killed by Duras(?) and then Worf killed him. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/63 "2003-03-02T00:05:51Z")
[Reunion](http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/st-tng/episodes/181.html) was the Worf show ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/64 "2003-03-02T00:09:04Z")
[Violations](http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/st-tng/episodes/212.html) gives us some insight about Jack Crusher and Picard ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/65 "2003-03-02T02:01:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Krokodil \* > \*\*Remember the episode (I think it was Season 7) where Beverly and Picard were trapped on some planet where they could read each others’ minds? They discussed it then. \*\* They lifted plot complications from _Gilligan’s Island???_ Good Heavens. ---
**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/66 "2003-03-02T02:45:22Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Kn_ckers \* > \*\*Indeed, there should not have been kids on the damn ship at all. > \*\* Obviously it’s not ideal to have kids on a starship, but what are the alternatives? Forced sterilizations? Is the new family forced off the ship when a child is born? Just the mother? (“Don’t worry about me honey; I just downloaded ‘Masturbation for Dummies’). Celibacy? (Worked well for the Catholic church). ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/67 "2003-03-02T03:11:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baraqiyal \* > \*\*Obviously it’s not ideal to have kids on a starship. \*\* Especially one that gets attacked and/or invaded by hostile aliens, battered by spatial anomolies, threatened by destructive holodeck malfunctions, infected with bizarre diseases and viruses of both the organic and computer-based varieties and just generally trashed, bashed, knocked around and kicked to hell on what seems like a weekly basis. Where the hell are Federation Social Services at? This is obviously a hostile environment these kids are living in! ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/68 "2003-03-02T04:02:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*They lifted plot complications from _Gilligan’s Island???_ > > Good Heavens. \*\* Where do you think they got the idea for _ST: Voyager_ from? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/69 "2003-03-02T04:20:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Obviously it’s not ideal to have kids on a starship. Oh, I don’t know, you can always throw them into the antimatter/matter converter when you need emergency fuel. Hmmmmm, this is how they could have gotten rid of Wesley in the first season. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/70 "2003-03-02T06:23:22Z")
> [@](#): > > ## quote: > > Originally posted by Kn\*ckers > Indeed, there should not have been kids on the damn ship at all. > > * * * > > Obviously it’s not ideal to have kids on a starship, but what are the alternatives? Forced sterilizations? Is the new family forced off the ship when a child is born? Just the mother? (“Don’t worry about me honey; I just downloaded ‘Masturbation for Dummies’). Celibacy? (Worked well for the Catholic church). In the modern military, female personnel are known to get pregnant from time to time. That doesn’t invalidate them for service, but it doesn’t mean they get to raise their babies aboard aircraft carriers, either. Given the allegedly advance medicine in the universe of _Star Trek_, I’d assume nobody reproduces unless they want to. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/71 "2003-03-08T10:41:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Baker_ > **I went to a science fiction convention once and they held a contest, and had prizes for those who could come up with the silliest ways to off Wesley Crush. I believe “drop a Methodist church on him” won.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JThunder \* > \*\*Oooh… That was clever (and it probably went over the heads of most everyone, I’m sure). \*\* Including mine. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/72 "2003-03-08T12:06:57Z")
Rilchiam, click on the following link and you’ll get it. [http://www.umc.org/churchlibrary/discipline/history/roots.htm](http://www.umc.org/churchlibrary/discipline/history/roots.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/73 "2003-03-08T12:27:08Z")
:smack: Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/74 "2003-03-08T12:39:49Z")
:smack: indeed. I don’t know if I’m slow or what, but I read through that entire brief history of the Methodist Church twice before I finally got it, at which point I literally fell off my chair laughing. I just love corny puns. ---
**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086/75 "2003-03-08T13:29:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JohnT \* > \*\*Those tight fitting costumes on ST: TNG were among the worst in television history, but on Welsey Crusher they were just _obscene_. YECH!!! My wife once asked “My God, what pedophile designed his uniform?” \*\* I’m glad I’m not the only one who had that reaction. Actually, it was better once they started putting him into a regular Starfleet uniform - the “casual” outfits he was wearing before then were even worse. And it wasn’t just Wesley Crusher - I often had the uncomfortable feeling that someone connected with casting and/or costuming for ST:TNG had an eye for the boys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-so-evil-about-wesley-crusher/158086.md?page=3)