# What was that one game Dopers found that had the computer guessing who they were?

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**Created:** [April 25, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627 "2011-04-25T06:53:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/41 "2011-04-25T19:16:25Z")

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Quoth **Tom Scud** :

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> I thought I had him on the last one since the questions seemed to be leading nowhere, but he still got it.

I think that this is what impresses folks most about programs like this: Humans playing 20 questions will usually go for questions to which we think the answer is “yes”, and so we think of someone getting a bunch of "yes"es in a row is a sign that he’s doing well. But when you’re confident that the answer to a question is “yes”, it’s a waste of a question to ask it: Why ask when you already know the answer? With a well-chosen question, a “no” answer will give exactly as much information as a “yes”, and so a computer that appears to be getting nowhere (i.e., it’s getting a lot of "no"s) is still making good progress.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/42 "2011-04-25T19:47:41Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> With a well-chosen question, a “no” answer will give exactly as much information as a “yes”, and so a computer that appears to be getting nowhere (i.e., it’s getting a lot of "no"s) is still making good progress.

Binary Partition Tree

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/43 "2011-04-25T20:08:52Z")

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Elizabeth fuckin Bathory and he got it! I’m impressed.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/44 "2011-04-25T20:28:13Z")

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Absolutely stumped him with James Ellroy (author of _LA Confidential_, _The Black Dahlia_, _The Cold Six Thousand_, etc.) Guess he isn’t famous enough.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/45 "2011-04-25T20:32:03Z")

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It got Yertle the Turtle in 20 questions.

It got [Magical Trevor](http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/magical+trevor/) in about 16 questions. That is seriously impressive.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/46 "2011-04-25T20:39:29Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> It seems to have trouble with comic book characters other than the A-list top names. I stumped it with a few different members of the Legion of Super-Heroes, including Mon-El, one of the most recognizable.

It got “one of the GI Joes” (I was thinking of Shipwreck).

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/47 "2011-04-25T20:43:26Z")

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Thinking of Vision of the Avengers…

First guess was Jetfire from Transformers … then Vision

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/48 "2011-04-25T20:43:51Z")

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It got Auntie Em after about 15 questions (including a few right before the guess that I have no idea how it related to the answer).

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/49 "2011-04-25T20:51:18Z")

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29 and one wrong answer for Zig from Zig and Zag.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/50 "2011-04-25T21:06:00Z")

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It got Gayle King on the first guess (12-14 questions or so). I find that remarkable given that there’s absolutely nothing special about Gayle King.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/51 "2011-04-25T21:09:56Z")

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It got Heckle & Jeckle

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/52 "2011-04-25T21:16:15Z")

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1st incorrect guess: Ray Veccio (Due South)

2nd: Maurice Boscorelli (Third Watch)

3rd: Bubba Skinner (In the Heat of the Night)

Stumped - Officer Vince Romano (TJ Hooker)

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**Author:** ![jacobsta811](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jacobsta811/32/2893_2.png) [@jacobsta811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jacobsta811)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/53 "2011-04-25T21:24:14Z")

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Couldn’t get Roland Burris. (Kept trying to guess Deval Patrick or Jesse Jackson). Screwing around with it I could get it to guess Roland Burris if I answered the question “Is he a member of the current government” incorrectly with “Yes”, instead of the correct “No”. So it doesn’t appear to be entirely up to date with that.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/54 "2011-04-25T21:42:34Z")

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It got “The monkey holding cards on the ad on the side of the screen” in about 8 questions, hahaha.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/55 "2011-04-25T21:47:36Z")

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HO. LY. CRAP.

It got Hazumu from Kashimashi Girl Meets Girl after 20 questions. 2 of which I answered ‘don’t know’ to and 2 it didn’t have an expected answer.

Not a single one asking about her gender swap. Or her alien encounter. Or the fact that it’s an anime/manga series. And only tangentially the fact that she’s in a love triangle with two other girls (it asks if she’s in a love triangle, and if she’s in love with a man, but that’s it, and I wouldn’t call that enough to call it).

I’m not surprised it got her. I am SHOCKED it got her with the information it had.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/56 "2011-04-25T21:53:28Z")

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It got the One-Eyed, One-Horned, Flying, Purple, People-Eater in about 16 questions (first try, too)

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/57 "2011-04-25T22:01:52Z")

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Got Speaker-To-Animals. Did not get Prill. Got Pham Nuwen after incorrectly guessing Louis Wu.

It got Portland Mayor Sam Adams after incorrectly guessing Barney Frank. Heh.

I need to stop playing with this damn thing.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/58 "2011-04-25T22:07:20Z")

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It got Warden Norton from _Shawshank Redemption_ amazingly quickly with very little pointed questions. I was pretty surprised when he got it right. It didn’t really ask anything specific about prisons or even being a bad guy. The closest it asked was “did he lead a group of people” and “did he use guns” and I’m pretty sure that’s awfully broad. I even responded “I don’t know” when he asked if the character wore glasses.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/59 "2011-04-25T22:13:12Z")

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Stumped him on Krista Allen, which is a bit of a surprise. Along the way it guessed Carmen Electra based on breast implants, heh.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-that-one-game-dopers-found-that-had-the-computer-guessing-who-they-were/579627/60 "2011-04-25T22:51:19Z")

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Antoine Dodson in 12 guesses.

Hide your genies!

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