# What was the distance from The Shire to Mordor (LOTR)?

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**Created:** [September 27, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602 "2005-09-27T01:28:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/21 "2005-09-28T08:44:57Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> Drawing from Karen Wynn Fonstad’s Atlas of Middle-Earth (which draws heavily on JRRT’s _copious_ details about times and distances, we get the following:
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> 1. About 1100 miles

In perceptive of our world, how far would that be? Beijing to New York, for instance?

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**Author:** ![Engywook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@Engywook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Engywook)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/22 "2005-09-28T09:07:26Z")

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> [@ExtraKun](#):
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> In perceptive of our world, how far would that be? Beijing to New York, for instance?

1100 miles is more like New York to St Louis.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/23 "2005-09-28T13:58:39Z")

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> [@Engywook](#):
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> 1100 miles is more like New York to St Louis.

But which end is Mordor?

My answer was going to be, oh about a thousand pages.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/24 "2005-09-28T15:20:45Z")

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The google ads say ‘Buy your Frodo has failed stickers! Low price!’

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**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/25 "2005-09-28T15:58:51Z")

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_snark_ Now one of the Google ads says “Planning A Trip?”? :eek:

Yeah… I’d like a one-way ticket to Mordor , please, and could I get a lay-over in Rivendell? (Those Elves know how to PARTY !) 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/26 "2005-09-28T16:48:36Z")

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> [@well he's back](#):
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> I think you’ll enjoy this take on the answer to your question:  
> [http://www.ooblick.com/text/tomordor/](http://www.ooblick.com/text/tomordor/)

That was funny, but didn’t look entirely accurate. Frodo never got that close to Minas Tirith, for instance… unless I’m missing the joke, and the website shows the route he’d PLANNED when he was sitting in front of his PC at Bag End, and not the route he actually TOOK (thanks to Boromir’s Ring-grab and other complications).

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-distance-from-the-shire-to-mordor-lotr/323602/27 "2005-09-28T17:38:52Z")

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Well, it also doesn’t mention the detour on the route through Moria, but that’s about par for the course for internet trip planning.

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