# What was the last "generation defining" band or artist? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 14, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589 "2022-09-14T22:08:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/1 "2022-09-14T22:08:58Z")
So in [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-for-you-is-the-defining-band-of-your-generation/971525) post I opined that the last “generation defining” band in the UK at least was Oasis in mid 1990s. My thinking behind this is to be “generation defining” a band has to be: - Firstly a very commercially successful popular band with lots of hit singles over multiple albums - Have a large committed fanbase who don’t just follow them, but actually define their identity (and/or have their identity defined by others) to some degree by their love of that band. - Be well known not just outside their fanbase but outside of the subset of people who pay close attention to contemporary pop music. - Be so associated with a particular era, such that looking back even people who were not part of their hardcore fanbase associate that era with that band. So based on all that i’d say the last time you could say this for a band (or artist) in the UK was for Oasis in the mid nineties. I’m not sure what the US equivalent would be? Nirvana? If I’m wrong what is the last generation defining band? I could see arguments being made for Radiohead, maybe Blur? Libertines? Kanye West? Eminem? But none of them define an era the way Oasis did IMO ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/2 "2022-09-14T22:17:54Z")
For rock radio in the US, the answer for my generation is Nirvana. There were rock stations before Nirvana, and then rock stations after Nirvana who played completely different rock music. Oasis had their moment here, but minor in comparison compared to other bands of their generation. Remember, my “generation defining” is limited to rock music, which was usually out-charted by other acts, so my answer only speaks to that realm. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/3 "2022-09-15T01:56:21Z")
I second Nirvana for rock band, last real defining band. But Eminem deserves credit for his rap being generation defining in the early 2000s. After that I stopped caring what the kids followed. Not even sure who Oasis is here in the US. Lots of young people seem to think highly of Billie Eilish, I like her style. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/4 "2022-09-15T02:08:36Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > - Firstly a very commercially successful popular band with lots of hit singles over multiple albums > - Have a large committed fanbase who don’t just follow them, but actually define their identity (and/or have their identity defined by others) to some degree by their love of that band. > - Be well known not just outside their fanbase but outside of the subset of people who pay close attention to contemporary pop music. > - Be so associated with a particular era, such that looking back even people who were not part of their hardcore fanbase associate that era with that band. Sounds like a good description of Taylor Swift and/or Justin Bieber, for Gen Z’ers and young millennials. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/5 "2022-09-15T02:15:35Z")
Nirvana certainly defines my generation. To a lesser extent: U2, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Pearl Jam or REM. But the last one? I cannot really claim to know the most modern groups. I’m not sure Eilish or anything K-pop (of which I know almost nothing) has broad enough appeal to qualify but I could be completely wrong. So my guess is Taylor Swift, who crossed genres, seems pretty popular and has for some time. Again, I could be wrong, in which case I proffer Eminem, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, Madonna, Daft Punk, Lady Gaga? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/6 "2022-09-15T04:06:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Sounds like a good description of Taylor Swift and/or Justin Bieber, for Gen Z’ers and young millennials. Is that the case though? particularly the last point? I get that I personally am not going to have as much emotional attachment to modern music as I have to music made when I was between the ages of 16 and 20 (because _duh_ the best music ever was made then and culture only went down hill from there 😉.) But was the music and cultural influence of a Justin Bieber or a Taylor Swift so great, in society at large not just in Bieber/Swift fandom, that the era when their careers peaked is actually defined by them? In the same way it was for the Beatles or Sex Pistols? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/7 "2022-09-15T04:20:30Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Daft Punk Pshaw they are from my generation and for us will ever known as the Chemical Brothers less cool french cousins 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mesquite-oh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@Mesquite-oh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mesquite-oh)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/8 "2022-09-15T06:00:15Z")
I would say that you have to be of that generation to really understand what is “generation defining.” I remember what the musical cultural scene was before Run-D.M.C. and what it was like after Run-D.M.C. Things changed overnight. Same for Nirvana. I was there, I felt it. My oldest millennial daughter would have no idea what I was talking about. She would say it was definitely Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and the boy bands of the early 2000’s. She was there, she had all their music, dolls, posters, My Gen Z nephews would say…I don’t know- BTS, Bieber, Drake, Eilish, Beyonce? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/9 "2022-09-15T06:14:56Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > But was the music and cultural influence of a Justin Bieber or a Taylor Swift so great, in society at large not just in Bieber/Swift fandom, that the era when their careers peaked is actually defined by them? In the same way it was for the Beatles or Sex Pistols? To the extent that that is possible in this day and age, I think so. Popular music has progressed so far along the EPS cycle that I don’t think it’s possible for any band or artist today to be as popular as the Beatles were. Indeed, it’s been that way for some time - despite how influential Nirvana was, they never had a #1 on the Hot 100. There’s far more music coming out every day, in more genres, it’s easier than ever to record and publish music, and there are far fewer gatekeepers to decide what becomes popular (Lil Nas X, for example, didn’t even have a record deal when Old Town Road went viral and topped the charts.) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/10 "2022-09-15T10:18:40Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I’m not sure Eilish or anything K-pop (of which I know almost nothing) has broad enough appeal to qualify BTS and BLACKPINK both have huge followings internationally. They certainly qualify if appeal was the main criterion. BLACKPINK only have one studio album out so far (as of today, but check back tomorrow!), though, so only BTS meets the first criterion of the OP. I’d say this is the era when K-Pop (and _Hallyu_ in general) burst onto the West, so in that sense, they’re going to be associated with that, their fans are certainly committed (one of my colleagues travelled from Cape Town to Seoul just to attend a BTS concert) and if I’m reading [non-music articles about them](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/may/31/bts-white-house-visit-anti-asian-american-hate-crimes) in The Guardian, I’d say they’re known outside their fanbase (unless Biden is just a huge secret Jungkook stan). So yes, I’d say BTS is it. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/11 "2022-09-15T10:49:27Z")
for British music in the 80s, it depends on the genre … I mean there was u2 the smiths the clash, the cure, the police even Elvis Costello I mean until 85 it was the"new wave invasion then came the electronic wave like new order, pet shop boys I mean except for his hair line how would you know Neil and Chris are almost 70 years old? But the problem is whats left of radio and streaming is too narrow in genres you can pick the one you like and never hear anything else I remember as a kid I could hear new order guns n roses new kids on the block and what ever bob dylan had released at the moment As for oasis the only thing they’re remembered here is for 3 or 4 songs claiming they were better than the beatles and the brothers fighting each other ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/12 "2022-09-15T22:29:38Z")
I prefer both Prodigy and The Chemical Brothers, so respect, but both Tiesto and Daft Punk and probably Kraftwerk had more big albums over longer periods and more recent successes. Canada’s EDM scene is also small and I’m not sure the Brothers were as popular here as they deserved to be. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/13 "2022-09-15T22:31:37Z")
Elvis, was a hero to most Elvis, was a hero to most Elvis, was a hero to most ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/14 "2022-09-15T22:37:33Z")
I know Psy had one of the most viewed songs, and elevated the genre. Although the horse dance looks fun, I don’t think he repeated that success. I saw one of the K-pop bands, young Asian men with suits and ties, on some awards show, doing a song not so far removed from Step By Step or (She Don’t Know) She’s Beautiful…. Is that typical for them? Dunno. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/15 "2022-09-15T22:39:55Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I prefer both Prodigy and The Chemical Brothers, so respect, but both Tiesto and Daft Punk and perhaps Kraftwerk had more big albums over longer periods and more recent successes. Kraftwerk doesn’t quite fit in there, they came 20 years before Daft Punk, the Chemical Brothers and the Prodigy. I just wanted to point that out because we’re talking about generations, and Kraftwerk are two pop generations before those other bands. Hard to believe in this case, because Kraftwerk were so ground-breaking for everything in electronic music that came after. The first next generation they inspired were the 80s synth-poppers. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2022, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/16 "2022-09-15T22:52:57Z")
I don’t know how to include synth/EDM when talking about generations. When I was beginning in university and learning a lot about music, Nirvana, GnR and U2 were very popular. My friends liked Britpop and Techno bands (as above) too, but these were less popular than rock and grunge, even if they had plenty of enthusiastic fans. But then twenty years later some of these bands and DJs are making fortunes with Vegas residencies, are still making music and hit songs now, and are finding new audiences in Silicon Valley, university radio and well beyond. It seemed a bit unusual for music to persist so long, though maybe it was always slightly niche? (Rush, Spirit of the West and The Tragically Hip were also popular with some Canadians at the time, less well known internationally.) ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/17 "2022-09-16T01:32:30Z")
The title of the post includes “artist” so if we expand THAT definition beyond music I think the “generation defining” artist for post-millenials would probably be someone who became popular through social media. Jojo Siwa, maybe? I don’t know-I am in mid 40s so I don’t follow the trends of the young people closely. I will NOW go back to screaming at a cloud… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/18 "2022-09-16T06:01:21Z")
I don’t know either of those songs. This is BTS: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HbkBVxU5K5A/hqdefault.jpg "BTS (방탄소년단) 'Butter' @ The 64th GRAMMY Awards") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbkBVxU5K5A) And they are literally the biggest band in the world right now. Nobody else comes close, really. Psy was a one-hit wonder in the West. **They add $5 billion a year to their country’s economy. 800 000 people a year visit South Korea _for them_** I’m not a fan (I don’t mean that in the “not a fan” pejorative way, I’m neutral on them), but I certainly recognize their impact. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-last-generation-defining-band-or-artist/971589/19 "2022-09-16T13:37:05Z")
I think you have to go all the way back to Nirvana. Now that gatekeepers like record labels, radio stations, and M-TV have lost their stranglehold on production and distribution of music, following generations have been freed of the burden of a defining musical act.