# What was the loudest fanboy howl of outrage? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810 "2005-09-09T13:49:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/121 "2005-09-12T13:53:46Z")
> [@DataZak](#): > > Did the Trekkies cry blue murder when Kirk died? Esp HOW he died- he’s fighting Alex/Caligula but basically is killed _ **by a bridge?!?!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/122 "2005-09-12T13:56:41Z")
Yeah, what a way for a major character to go… “OW! I fell! Oh my!” ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/123 "2005-09-12T14:13:22Z")
I heard they originally filmed it where he was phasered in the back by Malcolm McDowell, and because of the fanboy outrage in the test screening they changed it to the fall. I guess to let him have his final death-lines. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/124 "2005-09-12T14:14:02Z")
I heard that while LOTR was in pre-prod, they would leak fake things deliberately to provoke the fanboys- such as “Rosie Cotton- Warrior Hobbittess”. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/125 "2005-09-12T15:23:47Z")
I guess a good nominee would be William Shatner directing Star Trek 5. That stinker had virtually every ST fan cringing and covering their faces in shame, especially the part where Kirk, Spock and McCoy sang Row Row Row Your Boat. I’m thinking it hasn’t been mentioned in this thread because it has been willed out of existence. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/126 "2005-09-12T17:52:15Z")
> [@elmwood](#): > > **STARBUCK IS A GIRL! STARBUCK IS A GIRL!** He allways was 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/127 "2005-09-13T03:30:55Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > That’s the whole point of my post–there was enough of a fanboy howl of outrage that Jackson changed the script and wrote her back out of the fellowship. Did this actually happen, though? When did the fanboys get a copy of the script before principal shooting was half done? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/128 "2005-09-13T03:33:55Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Esp HOW he died- he’s fighting Alex/Caligula but basically is killed _ **by a bridge?!?!** _ Better than a forklift. ---
**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/129 "2005-09-13T15:20:20Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Did this actually happen, though? When did the fanboys get a copy of the script before principal shooting was half done? I don’t think that Jackson had Arwen as a part of the Fellowship. I’d never heard anything to suggest that. But as I understand it, he had her showing up at Helm’s Deep along with Haldir and the other Elven archers. Liv Tyler went through weeks of sword training and had gone so far as to film a few scenes when the rumors hit the Net. The fanboy screams of agony were lound enough that PJ reconsidered and then cut the idea. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/130 "2005-09-13T16:19:56Z")
> [@Knowed Out](#): > > I guess a good nominee would be William Shatner directing Star Trek 5. Ahhh, you must referring to the planned Star Trek V, yes, terribly sad thing about that studio fire destroying the original print before release. Still I thought it was brave decision not to attempt to refilm, but just move on to VI. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/131 "2005-09-13T16:25:52Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’ve never been a fanboy enough about anything to get outraged about a plot development, but I _hated_ the fact that _Millennium_ killed off Jose Chung. It wasn’t that I was mad that Jose Chung had died, I somehow felt that it wasn’t kosher for _Millennium_ to kill off an _X-Files_ character, especially the one featured in possibly their finest episode ever. I recall checking a Usenet thread the day after _Jose Chung’s From Outer Space_ originally aired. Somebody had posted a request: “I missed last night’s episode – can somebody post a brief plot synopsis?” It seems safe to say that the only possible answer is “No”. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2005, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/132 "2005-09-13T23:43:21Z")
Ooh! Ooh! Warner Bros’ X-TREME!!! manga-fied kung-fu hippy from gangsta city “reworking” of Bugs Bunny _et al_. Now _that_ was a howl of outrage. ---
**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/133 "2005-09-14T07:11:44Z")
I would mention _Star Trek: Nemesis_ in this thread, but that movie was just part of a fever dream I had during a particularly bad bout of intestinal flu. Never happened. Nope, that steaming pile of celluoid was never allowed to exist in our reality. No way. And Data certainly never died. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/134 "2005-09-14T07:31:01Z")
> [@KCSuze](#): > > I would mention _Star Trek: Nemesis_ in this thread, but that movie was just part of a fever dream I had during a particularly bad bout of intestinal flu. Never happened. Nope, that steaming pile of celluoid was never allowed to exist in our reality. No way. > > And Data certainly never died. And even if that happened, He was cerntainly never brought back for no reason. I Frakking HATE it when anyone does that. "Oh, let’s kill a character off and get everyone all emotional over his/her death, but then we’ll bring him back at the end/in the next one so we can keep using him. DAMNIT, LEAVE HIM DEAD OR DON’T KILL HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE! ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/135 "2005-09-14T08:15:31Z")
While it may not have been the loudest, I think a special mention for the shrillest ought to go to the recent screams of outrage and denial from the Harry/Hermione ’shippers when the latest Harry Potter book spelled out what everyone else had known for years – that it was Ron who would get off with the bushy-haired swot. Of course, calling them “delusional” didn’t exactly calm the situation. ---
**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2005, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/136 "2005-09-14T08:40:26Z")
Maybe I’m the only one not happy about this: Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/137 "2005-09-15T21:02:12Z")
> [@](#): > > “Do you know what happens to a toad when it’s struck by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else!” I know all the Joss Whedon fans are probably going to want to tear me a new one, but I just come to Halle Barry’s/Storm’s defense and say it was Whedon’s fault. Since when has Storm _ever_ been flip and sarcastic? I have a passing acquaintance with the X-men franchise, and it seems to me that Storm is very much the serious mutant. Whedon was writing for Buffy when he should’ve been writing for a completely different character. We can’t really blame Barry for staying in character, can we? ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/138 "2005-09-15T21:38:36Z")
> [@Ichini Sanshigo](#): > > I know all the Joss Whedon fans are probably going to want to tear me a new one, but I just come to Halle Barry’s/Storm’s defense and say it was Whedon’s fault. Since when has Storm _ever_ been flip and sarcastic? I have a passing acquaintance with the X-men franchise, and it seems to me that Storm is very much the serious mutant. Whedon was writing for Buffy when he should’ve been writing for a completely different character. We can’t really blame Barry for staying in character, can we? I’m with you on this one. Personally, I thought Halle Berry as Storm was terrible to begin with, so I wasn’t jumping to defend her. But Storm as portrayed throughout the history of the comic book, whether as an earth mother, surrogate mother to Kitty, or as a punk rocker, she NEVER said flip-off-the-cuff remarks such as this. And anyway, it’s still a weak one-liner, no matter how it could be delivered. Whedon is just trying to pass the buck on this one. Anyway, with all the Whedon fanatics in this thread, I am reluctant to, but fear I must, bring up the infamous death of Tara. Willow & Tara were one of the first (if not THE first) stable lesbian couples ever shown on tv (temporary seperation notwithstanding - every longterm tv couple has to suffer through at least one break-up). Tara’s death (following on the heels of being shown romping in bed with Willow) seemed to suggest - to some viewers anyway - an equation about being openly gay and getting killed. These very boards were SCREAMING for Whedon’s head the day after that episode aired. ---
**Author:** ![Ezekiel25\_17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@Ezekiel25\_17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ezekiel25_17)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/139 "2005-09-16T03:45:19Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Ho-kay, so, you have this Star Wars universe. Pretty cool universe, no? There are these guys running around the universe with these l33t powers (limited pre-cog, telekensis, etc.). Three movies and a pile of books featuring these ultra-cool guys. Then comes the prequel and you find look that the reason these guys are so l33t is because they have parasites called midochlorians living in them. 1. Ewwwww. 2. You expect me to believe that these space samuari draw their powers from über-ameobas? That’s like saying, “Guess what? Superman doesn’t get his powers from the yellow sun, but rather a Kryptonian tick that has been living between his shoulder blades all his life.” > > Also, apparently Anakin (maybe Vader someday later, but he’s now a small fry) was formed from these midochlorians. That’s right. Anakin is a Jesus-like character, complete with the virgin birth. While I hate to defend Midichlorians, I don’t think you’re Superman analogy is apt. Superman has powers because of the Yellow sun’s effect on his Kryptonian body. The Jedi have the Force because of Midichlorians in their bodies. All Ep. 1 did was explain the mechanism behind the powers. Midichlorians aren’t the Force, they are just the Jedi’s link to The Force. All living things have midichlorians, Jedi just have higher levels of them. Also, after seeing Episode III, I think the virgin birth has little to do with the midichlorians, and more to do with Palpatine (or possibly his former master). [nitpick]it’s "maybe Vader someday later- now he’s just a smallfry[/nitpick] My vote for biggest fanboy rage (allowing for the fact that pre-90’s the rage was harder to measure) is the Star Wars: Special Edition, with honorable mention going to the cancellation of Firefly. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2005, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810/140 "2005-09-16T07:26:40Z")
While not on the scale of those already listed, by far the biggest howl-to-actual-magnitude-of-offense I know of is Tokyopop’s handing of Initial D. First, a little background. Tokyopop is this white-hot American manga company that’s taking the nation by storm. For their latest project, they’re going to translate a niche manga/anime series that’s really big in Japan but virtually unheard of stateside. It’s (essentially) about street racing, and it will be the first ever serious racing-related title brought to America. Completely uncharted territory. Meanwhile, Sega is in the process of bringing the arcade game based on the manga to America as well. On top of that, Tokyopop is even entertaining a network television deal (most likely Cartoon Network) for the anime. In other words: 1. This is going to be huge, 2. this is going to reach a really, really big market, along the lines of Pokemon’s, and 3. there’s a pretty big chance of this crashing and burning. Here’s the grand total of changes they made to accomodate the American market: 1. Nicknames for several key characters (no one after Second Stage). 2. Some native lingo. 3. A “tricked out” option on the anime DVDs…mostly a few flashy screen transitions. And a rap soundtrack. The original soundtrack and graphics are still available. 4. **Two** panels of the manga altered a bit due to, ah, adult content. (There was a rumor that the exact relationship between the two characters involved was toned down a bit, but it sure didn’t look like it to me.) Man. It’s been over three years now, and the screaming is _still_ going on. The worst part, of course, is that none of these fanboys has the tiniest clue of how the American manga market works, nor are they willing to address the fact that **every freaking American manga company** does these kinds of things. Nope. My way or the highway. It’s bizarre. Are there _that_ many rabid purists so completely ignorant of the land they live in and utterly unwilling to accomodate less adamant fans, who also happen to be BILINGUAL? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-the-loudest-fanboy-howl-of-outrage/320810.md?page=8)