Well, unless they were Muslim.
“Roger that” dates back as far as 1941, or World War II, according to Dictionary.com.
So, it would have been in use in the 50s.
Okay. Still, I’ve heard “Roger” used many times in old movies and TV shows, but I can’t think of another instance where I’ve heard “Roger that!” used any time before Vietnam.
The phrase I remember is “Roger, wilco [“will comply”], over and out.”
When I was teaching English as a foreign language, my supervisor asked me if I knew the origin of “Roger” used in radio communications. I made an educated guess that it went back to the old WWII-era phonetic alphabet, in which R was “Roger,” and probably stood for “Right!” (I know now it stood for “Received,” as in “Received and understood.”)
The reason why the current phonetic alphabet uses “Romeo” for R is because “Roger” is ambiguous—the receiver could potentially mistake it for “Received” when the simple letter R is meant. It’s also easier to remember, since it’s paired with “Juliet” for J.
If you are learning it for the first time, sure. It’s a pain in the butt for those of us on our 3rd or 4th iteration. The change also makes a lot of jokes obsolete as well (“Oh, wow man. Somebody’s talking pretty bad about Roger.”)
At the end of the first trimester, I’d give my more advanced students a copy of the phonetic alphabet and dictate the following coded message for them to copy down: “I just want to remind you that you have an exam on Monday.”
There was always at least one guy who started writing “India, Juliet, Uniform, Sierra, Tango…” before somebody noticed and stopped him.
Roger that.
(Of course, the ironic use of it includes the coincidence of “roger” meaning “fuck.”)
As in “Roger the Cabin Boy.”
Ah. Is that traditional? Thanks for the information.
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Do you know something Joel Coen and Felicity Huffman don’t?
It’s more than just tradition. It’s part of religious practice. It’s mustahabb, which means “highly recommended, but not obligatory”.
Note that according to all the jurisprudence on this I’m aware of, the removal must be done by the person themselves, getting it done by someone else is actually often considered haram (forbidden)
Another bit of trivia - plucking the eyebrows, specifically, is directly declared haram by the Prophet himself.
Thanks again. Not trivia to the people practicing it, presumably.
My guess is that there were few if any observant Muslims hanging out on nude beaches and similar situations in the USA in the 1960’s and 70’s; or in any other situation in which I would have found out about their pubic hair.
I think the show takes place in the 70s.
According to IMDb, it’s set ten years after the Father Brown mysteries in the early '50s. So 1960–65.
The most recent episode I saw had a woman talking about her boyfriend who died during World War II, but she’s in her 50s, so the timeline doesn’t line up unless it’s the 70s.
Oops, should have JFGI’ed everything first.
Okay, Joel Coen would be the only one who needs to know.
Sort of… While the sugar wasn’t as refined as what you’d see today, it wasn’t raw sugar like today’s piloncillo either. They basically had a way using to remove a lot of the molasses and make “white” sugar. They didn’t charcoal-filter or centrifuge it or any of the modern ways of separating the molasses, so it probably wasn’t as white as what we’re used to.
Sugar Production in 17th century Colonial Barbados – Cryssa Bazos
Plus, we know that there was a LOT of refined sugar out there; the sheer quantity of molasses imported by the American colonies to produce rum points that out.
The cubes in the movie looked like they had just come out of a Domino or C&H box, which they probably did.
Cubes were invented in the 1840s from what I could google. I had thought your gripe was with the white sugar, not the cube format.
It’s both. I’ve seen and used period sugar, and the stuff in the movie was distinctly modern.