# What was Trump actually implying he did when he said he "grabb\[ed\] em by the pussy" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870 "2019-04-01T17:49:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/141 "2019-06-25T15:14:49Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Another aspect is the aphrodisiac power of celebrity. I have a friend with a teenage son who has appeared on television shows and is very good looking. In addition to tweens and teens, this child has grown women approaching him online as well as finding his phone number to express their attraction to him. It’s literally the stuff of male fantasies. > > Some people here may not understand this because Trump was mostly an East thing, but Trump was very famous before his television show or the Presidency. He was the Man in addition to being wealthy, charismatic, and good looking. So when I hear of that some women will go out of their way to hookup with a teenage boy they saw on television, it’s not hard to believe some women with do anything to be with someone like Trump who is a thousand times more famous. This is neither a defense nor a justification for bragging about sexual assault. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/142 "2019-06-25T16:27:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is neither a defense nor a justification for bragging about sexual assault. No, but it is a distraction to bet us talking about something else. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/143 "2019-06-25T16:36:58Z")
To be fair, who among us **hasn’t** gleefully bragged in private conversations about committing sexual assault? I know I…well, actually I haven’t, but clearly that must be due to “political correctness”. But perhaps **LAZombie** has had different sorts of conversations when alone with friends than I have. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/144 "2019-06-25T16:45:58Z")
[I mean… the choice wasn’t that difficult, to be honest.](https://imgflip.com/i/349x45) ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/145 "2019-06-25T18:52:09Z")
As a rule, whenever Trump says something that common sense suggests is a lie, his defenders are quick to explain how he’s actually being truthful. But the one time he says something that, if true, reveals him to be a rapist, his defenders are quick to explain how he’s NOT being truthful. Make it make sense, y’all. Make it make sense. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/146 "2019-06-25T19:11:46Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > As a rule, whenever Trump says something that common sense suggests is a lie, his defenders are quick to explain how he’s actually being truthful. But the one time he says something that, if true, reveals him to be a rapist, his defenders are quick to explain how he’s NOT being truthful. > > Make it make sense, y’all. Make it make sense. Have a drink of this Kool-Aid and everything will become crystal clear. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/147 "2019-06-25T20:50:39Z")
> [@SamuelA](#): > > So I strongly dislike Trump and think he’s not competent to serve as President. > > With that said, the “grab em by the pussy” quote has never made sense to me. I have made out with a number of women I knew were willing to have sex with me. Yet even when it’s a quick bit of hugging and mutual groping before intercourse, I never started out trying to grab their crotch. > > For one thing, most women don’t respond well to that, direct stimulation of their genitals isn’t something they are immediately ready for. For another thing, even for the occasional woman who is ready for this right away, you still need to make sure first, with touches to other areas and a light touch over their genitals to to try to assess how much heat and dampness there is. And, uh, there’s nothing to physically grab. > > What I _think_ Trump was trying to say is that as a billionaire and a powerful man, there are a certain class of women who are turned on by his status and fame. They are essentially ready to have sex the moment Trump had them alone. And I think he’s also trying to imply that he believes his sexual prowess to be so great that he just has to immediately have intercourse with these women, and they will soon return wanting more sex. (and, uh, substantial dollar payments) > > I don’t \*think \*he’s trying to say he physically puts his hand on every Trump groupie’s crotch the very moment he can without consent, or somehow grabs something down there to force them closer. > > What do you think Trump actually meant? Remember, he can still be a creepy scumbag and yet not have actually committed this particular difficult to commit bad act. JFK, and Bill Clinton could explain it better… although, Bill allegedly used a cigar. ---
**Author:** ![Tempe\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tempe_jeff/32/7328_2.png) [@Tempe\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tempe_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/148 "2019-06-25T20:56:13Z")
Compared to Joe Bidens ‘hands on’ approach to young girls… The real question is, why was none of this news until days before the Election? That was originally caught on tape in 2005. Probably was, referring to ‘Hound Dog’ Bill Clinton. He certainly grabbed his share as Governor although, as far as we know, Bill did not have sex with cousins or other family members. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/149 "2019-06-25T21:17:54Z")
> [@Tempe\_Jeff](#): > > Compared to Joe Bidens ‘hands on’ approach to young girls… The real question is, why was none of this news until days before the Election? That was originally caught on tape in 2005. Probably was, referring to ‘Hound Dog’ Bill Clinton. He certainly grabbed his share as Governor although, as far as we know, Bill did not have sex with cousins or other family members. When we have an admitted sexual assaulter in the White House who has been credibly accused of rape and sexual assault by over 20 women, what we really should worry about is the timing of the release of his own words bragging about sexual assault. Not, you know, that maybe we shouldn’t have a rapist and sexual assaulter in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/150 "2019-06-25T22:12:53Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Jesus. > > So Hillary’s problem is that she had an acquaintance who was a sexual predator? And Trump’s problem is that he’s a sexual predator? And both these things are about the same? > > What the fuck, dude? > > Is that what they teach you in your church? Nice language. Please tell us where you go to get your morals. Local bar I presume? Hillary not only knew the predator (Weinstein) she took money from him and called him all kinds of great things. She only stopped when the news came out. Otherwise you bet she darn well knew and would have continued to support him. And lets not mention some of the things Bill has done. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/151 "2019-06-25T22:14:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Bullshit. You and everyone else who voted for Donald Trump had a choice to make and you all made the wrong choice. > > Donald Trump is a worse person than Hillary Clinton. And Donald Trump is a worse politician than Hillary Clinton. So there was no good reason to pick Donald Trump instead of Hillary Clinton. You sound like a good, loyal democrat. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/152 "2019-06-25T22:16:02Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Nice language. > > Please tell us where you go to get your morals. Local bar I presume? > > Hillary not only knew the predator (Weinstein) she took money from him and called him all kinds of great things. She only stopped when the news came out. Otherwise you bet she darn well knew and would have continued to support him. And lets not mention some of the things Bill has done. How does this excuse or justify, in any way at all, continuing to support (long after the election against Hillary!) someone who bragged on multiple occasions about violating the consent of women, and who was credibly accused of rape and sexual assault by over 20 women? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/153 "2019-06-25T22:16:03Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Nice language. > > Please tell us where you go to get your morals. Local bar I presume? > > Hillary not only knew the predator (Weinstein) she took money from him and called him all kinds of great things. She only stopped when the news came out. Otherwise you bet she darn well knew and would have continued to support him. And lets not mention some of the things Bill has done. I’m not thinking that this is a very good thread for persons defending Trump to be casting aspersions on other people’s morals. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/154 "2019-06-25T22:17:09Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > You sound like a good, loyal democrat. I’m sure you thought that was a sick burn. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/155 "2019-06-25T22:17:48Z")
> [@LAZombie](#): > > Another aspect is the aphrodisiac power of celebrity. I have a friend with a teenage son who has appeared on television shows and is very good looking. In addition to tweens and teens, this child has grown women approaching him online as well as finding his phone number to express their attraction to him. It’s literally the stuff of male fantasies. > > Some people here may not understand this because Trump was mostly an East thing, but Trump was very famous before his television show or the Presidency. He was the Man in addition to being wealthy, charismatic, and good looking. So when I hear of that some women will go out of their way to hookup with a teenage boy they saw on television, it’s not hard to believe some women with do anything to be with someone like Trump who is a thousand times more famous. Totally agree. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/156 "2019-06-25T22:20:39Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Totally agree. This is still not an excuse or justification in any way for continuing to support someone who bragged about sexual assault and has been credibly accused of rape and sexual assault by over 20 women. Continuing to make these sorts of bullshit excuses makes me suspect you don’t actually care about fighting sexual assault and rape, or at least don’t care about it nearly as much as you care about fighting liberals and Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/157 "2019-06-25T23:12:59Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is still not an excuse or justification in any way for continuing to support someone who bragged about sexual assault and has been credibly accused of rape and sexual assault by over 20 women. Continuing to make these sorts of bullshit excuses makes me suspect you don’t actually care about fighting sexual assault and rape, or at least don’t care about it nearly as much as you care about fighting liberals and Democrats. I mean he doesn’t care about literally sexually harassing women and bragging about it, so what do you expect? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/158 "2019-06-26T00:10:50Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > To fill that empty void, he tries to impress a D-list celebrity by telling him how much tail he is pulling, and **how women just throw themselves at him**. To your point in bold, isn’t it striking that Trump said nothing about \*them \*pursuing _him_? In fact, he didn’t allude at all to their desires. Whether or not all these women he was kissing and grabbing actually wanted him just didn’t seem important enough for the ole Trumpster to emphasize, which, when you think about it, is rather consistent with a rape mentality. It’s not that he assumes he always has consent; it’s that he considers female consent irrelevant in his narrative on how great and powerful he is. Commoners (i.e. D-listers like Billy Bush and below) have to concern themselves with consent because women don’t let lowly peasants get away with groping them, you know? But when you’re a celebrity (like Trump), they let you get away with anything. Trump could’ve just as easily been bragging about how the cops don’t ticket him for double parking or breaking the speed limit. He probably sees sexual assault as the same kind of wrongness as these actions, and therefore, he didn’t see the big deal about bragging about it. In his mind, all men either do it or want to do it. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/159 "2019-06-26T01:08:13Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Nice language. > > Please tell us where you go to get your morals. Local bar I presume? > > Hillary not only knew the predator (Weinstein) she took money from him and called him all kinds of great things. She only stopped when the news came out. Otherwise you bet she darn well knew and would have continued to support him. And lets not mention some of the things Bill has done. Oh no, some immoral person used naughty language on the internet! That’s so much worse than sexual assault! ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870/160 "2019-06-26T01:24:12Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Nice language. > > Please tell us where you go to get your morals. Local bar I presume? > > Hillary not only knew the predator (Weinstein) she took money from him and called him all kinds of great things. She only stopped when the news came out. Otherwise you bet she darn well knew and would have continued to support him. And lets not mention some of the things Bill has done. I doubt she knew he was a sexual abuser of women before the news came out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-was-trump-actually-implying-he-did-when-he-said-he-grabb-ed-em-by-the-pussy/831870.md?page=7)