What were Daisy Dukes called before Dukes of Hazzard?

Dammit, dude, did you even read that? According to your very own cite, berumuda shorts were fashioned after British mitlitary shorts, but it says nothing about those British military shorts being cargo shorts (the shorts pictured aren’t cargo shorts). This conclusion, that bermuda shorts are distinct from cargo shorts is, again, supported by your cite, " Cargo shorts may be a similar length, but are typically baggy or less ‘tailored’ than Bermuda shorts." None of this changes the fact that cargos, khakis and bermudas are not, nor have they ever been confused with, Daisy Dukes. Next thing, you’ll be saying how the name Daisy Dukes goes back to the English nobility who served as officers in the tropics.

Did the British Military ever wear what are now referred to as Daisy Dukes? Hell, did they even wear Bermuda length cut-offs?

No, I’m saying that the original terminology, “Bermuda Shorts” was replaced with the fashion style of “Khaki Shorts”, which, stylistically are nothing more than Bermuda Shorts renamed. And has since been renamed “Khakis” and “Camo Khaki Shorts” has been shorthanded yet further to “Camos” or “Khakis”, interchangeably. And that around here cut off jean shorts were commonly known as Bermudas and took on different meanings and styles, probably by the same linguistic evolution.

Wide left. Bermuda shorts are called khaki shorts when they are khaki in color. Blue or gray or white or pink bermuda shorts are not “khakis.” Bermuda shorts might be called camo if someone were to make bermuda shorts of camouflage material (the camo shorts that I’ve seen, both in this thread and in real life, are cargo shorts not bermuda shorts). I think the upshot is that today you are just as confused about what constitutes khakis, camos, cargos as you were thirty years ago when folks giggled behind your back because you called cut off jeans “bermudas.”

Except for the fact that this is totally wrong. Plaid Bermuda shorts would never be called Khakis nor Camos. Khakis can be long or short. I had never heard of Khaki Camos before your link to the Gap so I’ll give you that one, but in my mind they are two totally different things… Khakis are tan, Camo is multi color with irregular shapes. Even if the Khakis are loose and down to the knee, if they have cargo pockets all over the place nobody (other than your group of influence) would ever call them Bermudas.

Would this be a good time to ask devilsknew what they called the onion that hung off his belt?

the GAP uses “khaki” pretty liberally to refer to any cotton twill pant

see posts 54, 59 and 60

And how many bees you can get for a quarter?

The thing I don’t like about the Gap is that they don’t sell neckties, which are sometimes refered to as “evening gowns” or “socks.”

Which demonstrates my point exactly. Originally, Bermudas were only Khaki color… Bermudas were synonomyous with shortened dress Khakis. But fashion and popular usage and native coinage changed that. Bermudas could be many colors, prints, and styles depending on local language and fashion. And I have seen many styles of Camo Khaki shorts, with, and without cargo pockets, but the one unifying factor is that they are all bermuda cut.

Everybody just calm down and have a soda. Or, as they were commonly called in the 70’s, “bubbly pops.”

NO THEY WERE NOT… from your own Wiki cite:

Man, you fucking cited a page that demonstrates this to be false. Just in case you were too lazy to read your own cite, I quoted it in this very thread. Has it occured to you that you just might be so far off the reservation on this that you should just admit you dreamt it all?

Where were you residing at the time? I’d bet that there’s someone on this board that is familiar with whatever town it was. Perhaps familiar enough with it to corroborate your assertion.

So, now are you admitting that Bermuda cut means just above the knee and not Daisy Dukes?

Or, have you seen DD’s with cargo pockets, and/or cargo shorts that originated as blue jeans?

They were never called that. They were called bermuda pops. But I didn’t have many back then, because my mom would usually only let me drink bermuda milk. On some occasions, she’d let me have a bermuda beer, which was just another name for bermuda milk.

No. Not all bermuda shorts are khaki, and not all khaki shorts are bermudas. “Bermuda” refers to the cut. “Khaki” refers to the color or material. These bermudas are not khakis. These khaki shorts are not bermudas.

No, I want his version. That oughta be good.

And everybody knows sodas were called Boston Pops.

devilsknew, could you just stop digging; subways tunnels in city in China are starting to collapse.

The term Bermuda Shorts actually goes back to at least 1940. The Wikipedia cites are mainly about Men’s shorts, but women were wearing them before men. Florence Gainor was a sportswear buyer for Saks in 1938. She introduced quite a few fashion trends, including what became known as Bermuda Shorts in 1939. These were straight cuffed and reached to the knee. She also introduced a pair of shorts for women which looked like a skirt. Can you say “culottes, or skort?” And, her stuff wasn’t just in khaki.