# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2001 "2024-04-04T01:31:41Z")

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That is ok, I can see that instead of realizing that he was depending on blogessors for their arguments he would at least reflect on that, but instead he did double down, shows what they really think. Also, willfully ignoring who DEI also helps is telling.

And by the way, this is the pit. But I will not continue as I already did find that this poster thinks that it is a Sam\_Stone wanna be.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2002 "2024-04-04T01:48:49Z")

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> [@What Is "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion", and Is It a Good Thing?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-is-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-and-is-it-a-good-thing/999804):
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> Topic question is the premise for debate. Continuing the discussion from [What were you THINKING?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1997): I’m vaguely aware that there are studies showing the benefits of workplace diversity, but since I am not and have not been actively involved in or had any interest in DEI programs I haven’t mentally linked such benefits to DEI training specifically. And really, like the whole critical race theory, it’s very difficult for me to reduce the concept to tangible practices because the search results …

~Max

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**Author:** ![ColdBrew50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@ColdBrew50](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdBrew50)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2003 "2024-04-04T05:30:00Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Your facts don’t matter as far as they’re concerned.

I don’t see any “facts” at all. I see some rabid fans upset that someone called a beloved would-be guru some bad words, and have felt compelled to defend his corpus at length.

It’s a dumbass cartoon! Deal with it! I think it’s a piece of shit for socially-stunted nerds, generally.

Don’t question me, and there _be_ no problem.

Analogously, Jim Davis of _Garfield_ fame or notoriety likely vivisected many specimens in order to achieve his masterpieces.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I’m wondering if the conversation about / between **ColdBrew50** _et al_ might benefit from a more private room, not right up here next to the stage obstructing everyone’s view of the dancers.
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> Once a fight picks up some momentum IMO it goes out of scope here.
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> YMMV.

Better idea! How about you fuck off, dickweed? What are you a cop or something?

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2004 "2024-04-04T06:10:47Z")

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Oh this is going to go well…

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2005 "2024-04-04T07:03:51Z")

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> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> It’s a dumbass cartoon! Deal with it! I think it’s a piece of shit for socially-stunted nerds, generally.

I am not even a particularly big fan. I do not follow him and read every piece, just occasionally dip in.

You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion, and you are welcome to avoid that particular web comic.

> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> Don’t question me, and there _be_ no problem.

Well, aside from basic grammar, we _could_ just take your word for it that Randall Munroe is misogynistic and _not_ question you, but have you any idea where you are posting?

> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> Better idea! How about you fuck off, dickweed?

This is, after all the Pit, so why don’t you go felch a goat, or something similarly productive?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2006 "2024-04-04T07:32:14Z")

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> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> It’s a dumbass cartoon! Deal with it! I think it’s a piece of shit for socially-stunted nerds, generally.

People generally don’t have a problem with you disliking a comic strip. I like XKCD and don’t care if you or anyone else doesn’t like it. Hell, I can even see why someone wouldn’t like it.

But when you make up total bullshit out of nowhere, that’s what people are calling you out on. It means people can’t trust the things you say here, and they’re also going to even question your motives. If we know you’re going to lie just to get a rise out of people, which is basically what you did, people are going to write you off as a troll. The fact that your reaction to that is, “Well that’s everyone else’s problem,” that shows that you really don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2007 "2024-04-04T08:37:03Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> my understanding of diversity, equity, and inclusion is that it refers to employer policies designed to reduce liability in potential EEOC/discrimination suits. In fact I’m not familiar with the term being used in any other context.

That seems … blinkered.

Reduction of lawsuit liability has never even occurred to my organization, and I believe we are fairly mainstream as non-profit arts and culture organizations go. The context in which we consider DEI or its many variations (IDEA being one of the more clever ones - Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, Access) is at worst bandwagon-jumping and at best a genuine desire to be better at serving our exceptionally varied community.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2008 "2024-04-04T09:28:07Z")

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Hey, @ColdBrew50, now that you’re done insulting pretty much everyone on the board, maybe you should just fuck right off. It’s obvious that you think very highly of yourself, but here’s a bit of news: no one else does.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2009 "2024-04-04T09:59:58Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> People generally don’t have a problem with you disliking a comic strip. I like XKCD and don’t care if you or anyone else doesn’t like it. Hell, I can even see why someone wouldn’t like it.

I’m a comic nerd, strips and books both, and there’s a million strips I’ve read one or two of and dropped them because I didn’t think they were good. Even popular things.

But at the end of the day it’s just a comic strip. Not even a mainstream one it’s readership is very small comparatively speaking I promise. And I to like xkcd.

No one cares about disliking a comic. Honestly no one probably even would have cared if he had made a unsubstantiated assertion based on his own opinion. If it had been left at that this wouldn’t even be an issue. The problem is the completely over the top pushback to the point it’s becoming performative. I can’t even take this seriously. Real people don’t feel like this about something that’s just lines on a screen and a couple of weird jokes.

If you have actual arguments you’d like to make with like cites and examples that would be fantastic. Otherwise my advice to Coldbrew would be to drop this. I’ve seen this a million times if it’s not going to end well.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2010 "2024-04-04T10:19:42Z")

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Why the fuck are either of you, @Atamasama and @Jihi , treating this troll as anything but?

> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Well, aside from basic grammar,

It’s perfectly fine grammar for dialects like AAVE (which is likely why the troll was using it, they love going to _that_ trough as well)

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2011 "2024-04-04T10:23:37Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It’s perfectly fine grammar for dialects like AAVE (which is likely why the troll was using it, they love going to _that_ trough as well)

Good point about the AAVE. I didn’t pick up on that.

And let me be very clear I think he’s a troll. At one point I might not have thought that but this most recent incident has convinced me otherwise. My post was meant to analyze why he’s acting like a troll and what the problem with his behavior is. I think that’s instructive. If not to him then maybe to others. And I have no expectation that he’s going to take my advice. But yeah he is a troll.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2012 "2024-04-04T10:26:44Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> And let me be very clear I think he’s a troll.

Then why are you posting _advice_ to the troll?

The only advice a troll needs is to be told how, with anatomical detail, and how often, they can fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2013 "2024-04-04T10:27:19Z")

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Why are you attacking me?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2014 "2024-04-04T10:28:38Z")

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Because you’re enabling a troll. And I see no reason to coddle that kind of bullshit in the Pit.,

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2015 "2024-04-04T10:29:11Z")

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Fair enough I don’t view it as coddling.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2016 "2024-04-04T10:30:10Z")

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You realize we both think he’s a troll for the same reasons right? Are you attacking me because I’m not being vociferous enough in my responses to him?

Go back and read what I wrote. There is no enabling or coddling going on there.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2017 "2024-04-04T11:37:26Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Are you attacking me because I’m not being vociferous enough in my responses to him?

No. Silence would also have worked.

> [@Jihi](#):
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> Go back and read what I wrote. There is no enabling or coddling going on there.

This bullshit _is_ enabling:

> [@Jihi](#):
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> my advice to Coldbrew would be to drop this. I’ve seen this a million times if it’s not going to end well.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2018 "2024-04-04T11:44:09Z")

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Yeah okay whatever. We’re going to have to agree to disagree.

And I will post when where and how I want. You are not a mod.

And your energy would be much better spent going after the a\*\*\*\*\*\* above. Attacking me is a waste of f\*\*\*\*\*\* time I am an ally.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2019 "2024-04-04T11:54:20Z")

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You’re trying to eat your own right now and I don’t get that. And I’m not having it. You can keep coming at me all you want I will keep responding cuz I know who the f\*\*\* I am and I know what I meant. I even tried to clarify for you once and you want to keep f\*\*\*\*\*\* attacking me.

You’re trying to put purity tests on your own people. Don’t do that. I didn’t respond exactly in the way that you wanted me to even though we agree. You need to get some goddamn perspective and calm down

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2020 "2024-04-04T12:01:31Z")

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Irony warning.

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