# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2403 "2024-04-17T20:24:41Z")

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Now I’m being pedantic, but I characterize the claim “2 is less than 1” as a false comparison.

I’m also not a fan of referring to this sort of thing as denialism, but it’s common (IME).

On the other hand **Crane** has not, so far as I can tell, promoted “blood libel”.

~Max

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2404 "2024-04-17T20:28:18Z")

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It’s more akin to “6 million is less than (a potential) 5.35 million” with the addition of the “the Israelis should know better, of _all_ possible people” factor, I suspect.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2405 "2024-04-17T20:32:35Z")

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retracted

~Max

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2406 "2024-04-17T20:37:34Z")

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Yes, that was the sense I meant it in. Referring to Nazis as “kind and considerate”, even relatively so, is close enough to denialism for me.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2407 "2024-04-17T20:41:58Z")

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> [@Max\_S](#):
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> Now I’m being pedantic…

_Now_?

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2408 "2024-04-17T21:18:25Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> So, yes, today’s programmers have lost that old ingenuity, because it’s just not cost effective to have it.

Agreed, but I suspect it is still alive in niches like reducing the run time of LLM training.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2409 "2024-04-17T21:47:16Z")

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Fuck off and die, you piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2410 "2024-04-17T22:13:06Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I’m so fucking glad to know you’ll be dead soon. When it happens, there will be a memorial thread here and I will be sure to remind everyone what a despicable scumfuck you were, and that your death should be an occasion for rejoicing.

> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> Wishing death or illness on other posters is a violation of the board’s rules. Please avoid language like this in the future.
> 
> No warning issued.  
> [/Moderating]

> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Fuck off and die, you piece of shit.

[Moderating]  
Okay, this is now a formal warning for ignoring moderator instructions.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2411 "2024-04-17T22:41:31Z")

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Sorry. It was not my intention to disobey your instruction. I think of “fuck off and die” as a generalized expression of contempt akin to “fuck you” or “eat shit”, not a literal wish for the person’s death. But I guess I fucked around and found out.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2412 "2024-04-17T23:25:29Z")

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> [@Crane](#):
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> “just unplug it and plug it back in”.

The equivalent once happened when I was trying to get a small printer to accept the cartridge I’d just put in. Turned out to be a country code sorta problem between machine and cartridge. The printer tech guy I was on the phone with (a bump up from the original call-taker) walked me through the steps into the bowels of the software to change the machine’s ID code to accept American-made cartridges. Done! And…

Still didn’t recognize the cartridge. The tech guy and first call-taker were pondering why when I said, hey, why don’t I turn the printer off and back on?

It worked.

ETA: Yes, I know the discussion has moved on. Just wanted to get to post my little story. You may resume where you left off when I interrupted.

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**Author:** ![Crane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crane/32/3495_2.png) [@Crane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crane)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2413 "2024-04-17T23:33:00Z")

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Yeah, but it does work. Same with my TV set.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2414 "2024-04-17T23:33:30Z")

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I had a long post in your ATMB thread all typed up and I deleted it. As a, no dog in the fight, kinda thing.

And you wished someone death. Again.

That is some of the most horrible words a person can hear.  
Especially if they’re ill or elderly.

As I said I have no dog in the fight, but shame on you.

This Pit is reprehensible with the name calling, denigrating and bullying.

What happened to “Don’t be a Jerk”?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2415 "2024-04-17T23:37:15Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What happened to “Don’t be a Jerk”?

The Pit is where that rule is pretty much suspended except for the wishing death part, as we’ve seen. It’s where people who need to blow off steam and scream in reaction to stuff in other forums can let 'er rip. A safety valve.

ETA: It’s also more relaxed about off-topic hijacks – witness the long digression into ancient computers we’ve been seeing, which would be shut down or shunted into its own thread in another forum as derailing the topic at hand.

One reason I enjoy the Pit is precisely its more freewheeling spirit.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2416 "2024-04-17T23:41:25Z")

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I realize this. But I don’t like it. Only juveniles call nasty names and bully people.

Adults have civil conversations. If it gets heated. Back yourself up with facts not wishing death or calling someone possibly racist or belittling names.  
And, yes being put down because you’re older is racist in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2417 "2024-04-17T23:45:08Z")

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Hey, I’m in my mid-70s, and proudly display the motto: OSLO! (Older, slower, less organized)

Now get off my lawn!

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2418 "2024-04-17T23:46:04Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> being put down because you’re older is racist in my opinion

[![](https://cdn.ldsliving.com/dims4/default/aba6666/2147483647/strip/true/crop/640x336+0+32/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flds-living-brightspot-us-east-2.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com%2Fca%2Fbd%2Fe028075648b0d89c7004d0fdbe6c%2F14286.jpg) ](https://cdn.ldsliving.com/dims4/default/aba6666/2147483647/strip/true/crop/640x336+0+32/resize/1200x630!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flds-living-brightspot-us-east-2.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com%2Fca%2Fbd%2Fe028075648b0d89c7004d0fdbe6c%2F14286.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2419 "2024-04-17T23:46:47Z")

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Which word is that?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2420 "2024-04-17T23:47:32Z")

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“Old” is not a race.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2421 "2024-04-17T23:47:49Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Only juveniles call nasty names and bully people.

Ooh, so it’s OK to insult people for being young, but not for being old?

I think you’re the REAL racist.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2422 "2024-04-17T23:48:38Z")

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You know who ELSE would be old if he were still alive today???

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