# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2543 "2024-04-18T19:47:43Z")

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Technically there still is, although he hasn’t posted since 2010. He was prolific for a while - 38,000 posts between 1999 and 2010. IIRC he was usually quite smug, with a hyperfocus on logic and not much emotional intelligence, and with a particular hatred for political correctness.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2544 "2024-04-18T19:56:44Z")

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Ya got him before he changed it to Lib. snerk

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2545 "2024-04-18T20:19:39Z")

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> [@Bad Moderation in "Hamas Attacks Israel" MPSIMS thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-moderation-in-hamas-attacks-israel-mpsims-thread/1000412/24):
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> But he did indeed make it clear that he meant “less kind,” and was not engaging in any sort of hyperbole.

**BigT** , what were you thinking when you posted this? Ignore **Crane** for a second. If I say, “I’m so hungry I could eat a cow”, and **TOWP** asks, “a _cow_?”, and I clarify, “a _whole_ cow”, you realize I am being hyperbolic throughout? It is important that I am literally referring to a cow, otherwise it wouldn’t be hyperbole.

I think you had a valid argument, if only you had used “error of composition” instead of the word “hyperbole”. I.e. if **Crane** had accidentally written IDF is less kind than Waffen SS, but meant “more kind”, that would be forgiveable. I agree. But all agree, he didn’t do that. Pretty sure that’s what you were trying to say, but you botched it.

~Max

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2546 "2024-04-18T20:26:57Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> The name change was a wee bit of trolling, really (IMHO).

For certain values of “wee.”

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2547 "2024-04-18T20:30:42Z")

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No one called you out in the pit. You blundered into the pit and expected everyone to treat you with kid gloves. I believe at least 3 times now.

I say this in all seriousness. For your own sake, put the pit on ignore and just avoid it. You’ll be a happier person if you ignore it.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2548 "2024-04-18T20:36:21Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I thought **Beck** had her fans.

She does. I’m not sure how useful it is for me to get involved in this argument yet another time; especially since I’d come down smack in the middle of this particular version of it and probably annoy everybody.

Maybe I will anyway. Beck: please don’t try to tell people not to swear in the Pit. They’re gonna; that’s all there is to it. If you don’t want to be exposed to swearing, stay out of the Pit.

Everybody else: taking all the assorted posts at face value: Beck has done quite a bit of good in the world. And she’s done a lot of good posts on this board. If you don’t want to read about her cats or possums or grandkids or anything else about her daily life, then don’t read her threads. They’re no more mundane than a lot of things posted by others on these boards.

And we all of us need to watch out for unconscious bigotry; and we all need to practice not reacting defensively when accused of it. And we are all going to have to learn some things repeatedly.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2549 "2024-04-18T20:37:52Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I was finally moved to put her on Ignore after her behavior in this thread for the past couple of days. I have been skipping past her posts for weeks and weeks, they far too often contained opinions posted as facts (in every thread she was in) and never seemed to have any useful or valuable content. But the persistent whining non-sequiturs just became too much, and I am quite certain I am not missing anything of value. I’m not angry, just disgusted and fed up.

This sums up my sentiment well, though I don’t have her (or anyone) on Ignore. I find her contributions generally valueless and the folksy charm is lost on me.

I pretty much just blast by her posts, right up until her shtick takes over a thread I frequent. Then it’s the same string of “poor liddle me,” non sequiturs, martyrdom, etc. And it’s just as interesting as her standard posts, which is to say, not at all. Tiresome bullshit…

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2550 "2024-04-18T20:46:10Z")

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Moving on to some constructive criticism of a poster I like, but whom I think needs to be more careful of their posting habits on the subject of guns: @Ulfreida.

I repeat, I actually like this poster, and first want to state that it’s absolutely fine to dislike America’s gun culture, gun violence, and the consequences. I will likely agree 80% or so of the time, but that’s me, that’s them, and no problem if we disagree.

The problem is, that when guns come up in threads, you have a tendency to loose control of your internal filters and post in a manner that’s appropriate for the Pit, not for other forums. The most recent:

> [@Carrying firearms for defense against an aggressive bear?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/carrying-firearms-for-defense-against-an-aggressive-bear/1000420/34):
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> Moderating As others have said, that’s rather aggressive language for this forum, and somewhat misandrous. Please tone it down.

A prior offense:

> [@Have you or those close to you purchased a firearm in the last 2 years? (COVID/Insurrection/Mass Shootings)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/have-you-or-those-close-to-you-purchased-a-firearm-in-the-last-2-years-covid-insurrection-mass-shootings/941915/45):
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> This feels like thread shitting.

I -get- it that you’re passionate, and frustrated, and none of those are bad things. At worst, I’m accusing you, in the words of the OP, of foot-in-mouth disease. The topic comes up, your passion kicks in, and you post in a manner that is wrong for the forum.

The ONLY reason I’m bringing it up here is that to my knowledge, it’s happened twice, perhaps more in threads I don’t see. Granted, spaced out by over two years (!) but it’s something you seem to be aware of, based on a later post in the second thread I linked. With the mods looking at patterns in mod-notes, I don’t want you pulling warnings. So keep the passion, feel free to disagree with me and other posters on the topic, but watch the forum.

End of sermon.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2551 "2024-04-18T20:47:28Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Everybody else: taking all the assorted posts at face value: Beck has done quite a bit of good in the world. And she’s done a lot of good posts on this board. If you don’t want to read about her cats or possums or grandkids or anything else about her daily life, then don’t read her threads. They’re no more mundane than a lot of things posted by others on these boards.

Very few are complaining about her Bad Bad Bad threads here. Some have in ATMB, but here posters (and at least 2 mods) are complaining about her chastising posters in the pit and then playing victim when she gets pushback.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Beck: please don’t try to tell people not to swear in the Pit. They’re gonna; that’s all there is to it. If you don’t want to be exposed to swearing, stay out of the Pit.

This is fantastic advice and I hope Beck takes it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2552 "2024-04-18T21:29:29Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> What more can I say about it?

Beck, take this as from someone who wasn’t involved in the kerfuffles you got called out on, who doesn’t see you as fundamentally a bad person, and who thinks this arguing back and forth is both futile and pointless – STOP DIGGING! Please. That horse has been beaten to a composting pulp.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2553 "2024-04-18T21:40:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s “Rio” by Duran Duran.

Boy, that’s a veteran Doper thing!

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2554 "2024-04-18T21:46:09Z")

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I hope this will work, and I hope at least a few know “The Breakfast Club:” [UNMUTE IT]

> **[The Breakfast Club | "You want another...](https://www.facebook.com/reel/771027590133063)**
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> "You want another one?"
> 
> https://www.uphe.com/movies/the-breakfast-club

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2555 "2024-04-18T22:35:06Z")

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Why should she? Why should people not respond as they wish to the nuts who have very little life outside of internet gossip?

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2556 "2024-04-18T22:45:15Z")

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Yeah, now the thread is perfect.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2557 "2024-04-18T22:46:32Z")

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Bingo card is now full, awesome.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2558 "2024-04-18T22:49:19Z")

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Oh, I interrupted your sadistic pile-on?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2559 "2024-04-18T23:00:33Z")

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Thank you for the reminder: Beckdawrek, don’t be an “octopus”.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2560 "2024-04-18T23:06:22Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Very few are complaining about her Bad Bad Bad threads here

Well…it’s never risen to the level of complaint, but I’ve always found her “jes’ an ol’ country girl from Ar-k’n-saw” schtick, and her tendency to use the board as her own personal Livejournal, to be a bit tiresome. But there are people who enjoy her, and I’m happy to simply scroll past the “Bad, bad, bad” threads.

Lately, though, it seems any thread she joins gradually becomes the Beck Show, and I’m getting tired of it. She’s a net benefit to the board, I think, but any more I just skip her posts.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2561 "2024-04-18T23:06:43Z")

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Octo, I hate to tell you this, nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/2562 "2024-04-18T23:09:27Z")

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Coming from one of the head gossipers/shit stirrers who can’t help but blur the lines between mod and poster which shows a lack of integrity as a person I don’t really care.

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