# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3616 "2024-11-19T14:49:37Z")

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There’s another British show called “Escape to the Country,” which is a bit more like House Hunters in that it’s couples buying a house, accompanied by sweeping views of rural British landscapes. Many episodes on YouTube.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3617 "2024-11-20T16:47:20Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I actually posted when Demontree crossed back into my horizon last month in their shared Pit Thread with damuriajashi (one down at least.
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> [I Pit damuriajashi and DemonTree - #890 by ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-pit-damuriajashi-and-demontree/928300/890)
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> The post you mentioned feels very similar the one I referenced then: pointing fingers, vague accusations, but nothing strident or obvious enough to bring series attention their way. But since they DO have a dedicated Pit thread, I figure I’d mention it again.

I guess it merits mention again. 10 months after these posts and doing…precisely the same tired routine on the same related topics yet again. Not exactly sealioning but certainly sealion-adjacent

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3618 "2024-11-20T21:05:43Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> certainly sealion-adjacent

goo-goo g’joob

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3619 "2024-11-22T16:08:10Z")

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A thread in MPSIMS describes a bizarre sexual assault on a tourist by a priest in Greece. Most of the responses to the OP are people either making fun of the sexual assault, or saying that the victim wanted it (despite going to the police to report it).

Fuckin gross, y’all.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3620 "2024-11-22T16:57:56Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> A thread in MPSIMS describes a bizarre sexual assault on a tourist by a priest in Greece.

You’re skipping an important point: it’s a thread by a “new” poster. Classic troll behavior and should be mentioned in our Troll thread.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3621 "2024-11-22T16:59:38Z")

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Yeah, when that post showed up, my first thought was, “is this a trock? That’s an unusual first post for a new-to-you message board.” But the actual post seemed okay, so i decided to just keep an eye on the poster.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3622 "2024-11-22T17:38:22Z")

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It’s the replies that were gross.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3623 "2024-11-22T17:45:56Z")

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Yes, but that’s often the point of a troll, to inspire “bad” responses.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3624 "2024-11-22T18:13:26Z")

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Exactly. That’s what trolls do; they try to be evocative and provoke certain behaviors out of people, and don’t always need to be inappropriate in doing so.

Imagine every time a friend of yours hears the name “Donald Trump” they immediately go into a rage and start ranting like a maniac. You attend a party with that friend. The party is boring so you casually mention that you saw Trump announce a new cabinet pick; a truthful bit of information and a totally normal thing to bring up in most contexts. But you do it just to see your friend go berserk so you can stand back and watch the fireworks.

That’s high level trolling behavior. A good troll knows how to do it while seeming totally innocent.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3625 "2024-11-22T19:48:21Z")

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This “troll” (I’ll withhold judgement on that) didn’t force a bunch of pricks to make stupid, disgusting troglodyte jokes about a sexual assault victim. That’s entirely on all of those posters, not that OP.

And that’s leaving aside **bump** , with the “he was totally into it at the time” motherfuckery.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3626 "2024-11-22T21:31:54Z")

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I’ll point out that “troll” in this context goes back to the term in fishing, where the fisher trolls a bait that the fish find irresistible and they _must_ strike without being able to refuse their impulses.

So perfectly in character, and actually one of the better-executed trolls here.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3627 "2024-11-22T21:50:21Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The only political information you need for the rest of your life is never, ever vote R. The rest is just details. Irrelevant non-decisionmaking details.

This is undeniably true, and also highlights an unfortunate and uniquely American fact that doesn’t apply in more sane countries, where there are often legitimate choices between conservative vs liberal leadership. The current two-party system in America gives you a choice between conservatism and malignant idiocracy.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3628 "2024-11-23T00:35:37Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> where the fisher trolls a bait

Is that spelled “troll” or “trawl”? I know the latter is a pretty common word in fishing but I don’t know if “trawl” applies in your exact context or if the word really is “troll.”

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3629 "2024-11-23T00:38:54Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Is that spelled “troll” or “trawl”?

> **[Trolling (fishing)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing))**
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> Trolling is a method of fishing where one or more fishing lines, baited with lures or bait fish, are drawn through the water at a consistent, low speed. This may be behind a moving boat, or by slowly winding the line in when fishing from a static position, or even sweeping the line from side-to-side, e.g. when fishing from a jetty. Trolling is used to catch pelagic fish such as salmon, mackerel and kingfish.
> In American English, trolling can be phonetically confused with trawling, a different ...

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3630 "2024-11-23T00:41:48Z")

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Thanks, that’s perfect!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3631 "2024-11-23T01:46:16Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> A thread in MPSIMS describes a bizarre sexual assault on a tourist by a priest in Greece. Most of the responses to the OP are people either making fun of the sexual assault, or saying that the victim wanted it (despite going to the police to report it).

And now the thread’s been locked because of the gross comments.

You wanna know why more men don’t come forward when they’ve been sexually assaulted? Because of this kind of reaction where we’ve apparently decided that rape is funny when the victim is male, or proves that they weren’t enough of a “real man” to stop it, or that they deserved it for not fighting back.

See also the vast panopoly of “hur dur don’t drop the soap” comments that happen whenever a disliked person gets a prison sentence. I’ve never experienced any kind of sexual assault myself, but if I had I’d hesitate to talk about it if this was the kind of reaction I expected.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3632 "2024-11-23T02:00:00Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Because of this kind of reaction where we’ve apparently decided that rape is funny when the victim is male, or proves that they weren’t enough of a “real man” to stop it, or that they deserved it for not fighting back.
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> See also the vast panopoly of “hur dur don’t drop the soap” comments that happen whenever a disliked person gets a prison sentence.

All of this is why rape jokes get modded.

I am no mod but it seemed like that thread, at _best_, was skirting the line. (And of course the OP of the thread came right out and blatantly defended rape, which was just shooting past the line in a race car.)

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3633 "2024-11-23T03:23:57Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> And of course the OP of the thread came right out and blatantly defended rape, which was just shooting past the line in a race car.

And now the thread, and its perpetrator, are cornfielded. So, what they were thinking was undoubtedly “hurrr, durrr, I troll u”.

I won’t go into what the willing participants were thinking.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3634 "2024-11-23T06:20:54Z")

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People aren’t fish, and you can fuck off with your rape culture-lite defense of all those “Tee Hee Buttseks” chucklefucks who have actual human agency.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3635 "2024-11-23T13:35:37Z")

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I don’t think I was defending anything.

Not even tour poor reading comprehension.

My only post in that thread was reminding people that sexual assault is bad, m’kay, and blaming the victim for being susceptible to the power imbalance that enables it is also bad.

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