# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3817 "2025-01-24T10:23:57Z")

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I’m going to be contrarian and say that I appreciated the idea behind the joke in the headline and Lord knows this board has endorsed snark on the subject of many people’s deaths before.

Now stop making me defend BB. Also, I didn’t actually read beyond the headline.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3818 "2025-01-24T23:03:23Z")

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Casual racism by Lumpy in  
`https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tell-us-an-interesting-random-fact-you-stumbled-across-part-2/1004785/1432`  
Not sure if that can be moderated.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3819 "2025-01-24T23:07:01Z")

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Yeah, I noticed it too. It’s one of the regular turds Lumpy uses to dump in threads. I can’t tell if he is a genuine asshole/racist/racist asshole or just trolling, but does it make a difference?

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3820 "2025-01-24T23:13:41Z")

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Well, I’ve certainly made _my_ position clear on this matter:

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Anyway, I don’t know why we’re in this thread. This thread is for otherwise good posters who _aren’t_ trolls, and yet here we’re talking about **Lumpy**?

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> For the record, I don’t think your criticism is appropriate. You should apologize…
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> …to @ParallelLines (because this is the thread for criticizing people who _aren’t_ trolls, and yet here you’re criticizing **Lumpy** ).

ETA: Oh, and this was also re: **Lumpy** :

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> > [@Pleonast](#):
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> > Has this poster always been a fascist?
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> Let me put it this way: I don’t believe he belongs in _this_ thread.

Seems after a while, with so many distinct appearances in this thread, the point ought to be well made?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3821 "2025-01-24T23:21:40Z")

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Do we have a pit thread dedicated to Lumpy themselves?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3822 "2025-01-24T23:22:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Also, I didn’t actually read beyond the headline.

What came beyond the headline was the problem. The headline wasn’t so great, either.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3823 "2025-01-24T23:22:55Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Seems after a while, with so many distinct appearances in this thread, the point ought to be well made?

Yes, I think you’re right, he belongs in the troll thread or even deserves his own pit thread, but it would be hard to find many of his trolling posts because they are so casual.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3824 "2025-01-24T23:41:02Z")

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[Y’all are just picking on Lumpy 'cause he ain’t a leftist!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/you-made-my-point-for-me/1013219)  
“Injuns”? He’s gotten away with anti-trans slurs at least twice in the last six months.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3825 "2025-01-25T00:59:50Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Do we have a pit thread dedicated to Lumpy themselves?

Not exactly that I could find. But there are 4 pit threads with his name in the title. (One of which is not about our poster but rather an off-board character nicknamed “lumpy” but is still an entertaining read). The earliest is from 1999. The dude’s got staying power.

For your reading pleasure: **[Search results for ‘#the-bbq-pit in:title Lumpy’ - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/search?q=%23the-bbq-pit%20in%3Atitle%20Lumpy%20order%3Alatest)**

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3826 "2025-02-08T01:32:23Z")

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The various complaints about the venerable **DrDeth** are legion. But one persistent complaint is that he doesn’t read his own cites and they often are quite at odds with what he claims they say. Which habit of his makes the following event really funny. Sad, but much more funny than sad IMO.

Over in Café Society there is a current thread where someone is seeking an alternative to _The New Yorker_ magazine. Largely because it’s getting too expensive for their tight budget. Along about post #38 **DrDeth** pipes up that he found a 20-month digital + print subscription for $60. So pretty darn cheap. A disbeliever asks for a cite to this really excellent deal.

So our intrepid hero posts his cite. To the subscription page for _New York_ magazine. Missed it by _that_ much. 😆 🤣

Admittedly, he’s from the US west, not from NYC. But _The New Yorker_ magazine is a pretty famous, nay iconic, national publication and has been for our entire lives.

I had to laugh. I refrained from gloat-posting there. So I could do it here.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3827 "2025-02-08T01:39:48Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> So our intrepid hero posts his cite. To the subscription page for _New York_ magazine. Missed it by _that_ much.

I knew as soon as he posted it he’d linked to the wrong magazine. I thought he’d notice it when he found his cite.

With as bad as most of his cites are, he should really just stop.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3828 "2025-02-08T01:46:25Z")

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I just checked. Print plus digital for the real _The New Yorker_ is $78/yr the first year and $169 for each subsequent year. That’s a 2.16 multiplier. Or a 54% discounted loss-leader teaser depending on your POV.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3829 "2025-02-08T01:51:12Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Print plus digital for the real _The New Yorker_ is $78/yr the first year and $169 for each subsequent year.

Yep. Although as I posted in the thread,

> I just renewed the New Yorker for $81 + tax for 1 year, includes paper delivery and digital, through [DiscountMags.com](http://DiscountMags.com). I’ve used them for years.

I’ve subscribed since 1982, so no more introductory rate for me…

Eta: prolly could have gotten a better rate if I’d gone with 2 years, but oh well

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3830 "2025-02-08T01:53:36Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The various complaints about the venerable **DrDeth** are legion. But one persistent complaint is that he doesn’t read his own cites and they often are quite at odds with what he claims they say. Which habit of his makes the following event really funny.

We have a whole thread about the good Doctor, but I’ll just throw this in here. There are two things to remember when debating this physician of oblivion:

1. He is always right, you are always wrong.

2. He will cheerfully jump into a thread long after some particular conversation is over to remind you of Point #1, even when the facts say otherwise.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3831 "2025-02-08T01:54:33Z")

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The magazine industry is funny in that they advertise a “suggested retail” full price that you’ll pay if you subscribe directly from them. And they’ll be happy to take your money if you do.

But if you subscribe through any number of historical “subscription houses”, the discount to the full price is half or more.

What an odd sales model.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3832 "2025-02-08T01:57:07Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> What an odd sales model.

But I missed out on the tote bag! Clearly worth that $71 extra for the 2nd year.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3833 "2025-02-08T01:59:35Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> We have a whole thread about the good Doctor,

Small correction. We have _six_ whole threads on him. Some quite old, but all amounting to the same complaints about the same schticks. 5 of which are minor (\<100 posts each) and then the 2200-post _magnum opus de crappus_.

For your reading displeasure: **[Search results for ‘#the-bbq-pit in:title drdeth’](https://boards.straightdope.com/search?q=%23the-bbq-pit%20in%3Atitle%20drdeth%20order%3Alatest_topic)**

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3834 "2025-02-08T03:31:30Z")

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I teed one up in a thread game earlier this week: 4 word story, I put in “In A Gadda Da” fully expecting something silly to complete the title. Like “Tarantulas”, “Haggis”, or “Earworms”…

He completely missed that the title was unfinished and just obliviously went off on an unrelated tangent.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3835 "2025-02-08T07:03:46Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> The various complaints about the venerable **DrDeth** are legion. But one persistent complaint is that he doesn’t read his own cites and they often are quite at odds with what he claims they say. Which habit of his makes the following event really funny. Sad, but much more funny than sad IMO.

Yeah, this used to drive me nuts before I started completely ignoring him.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/3836 "2025-02-08T18:41:10Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Admittedly, he’s from the US west, not from NYC. But _The New Yorker_ magazine is a pretty famous, nay iconic, national publication and has been for our entire lives.

Not always positively.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ov7dQ73GL2Q/maxresdefault.jpg "Torture By New Yorker Magazine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov7dQ73GL2Q)

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