# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4680 "2025-04-07T18:10:58Z")

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Well, if we define it as a thread _designed_ to get others to object, then it’s a tautology. Yes, anyone who posts such a thread is by definition a troll.

But there are threads that some of us interpret as provocative, like the one on puberty, that maybe aren’t. I don’t think all of those are trolls.

But that’s not exactly something searchable, so I think these will remain Schrodinger’s trolls.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4681 "2025-04-07T18:30:34Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Well, if we define it as a thread _designed_ to get others to object, then it’s a tautology.

Not a tautology, but an application of the definition of “troll”.

And definitely subjective. Which is the whole point of having the Trolls R Us thread, so posters can discuss it. While I appreciate the long-term impact of discouraging new posters, there’s also the short-term impact of the board tolerating toxicity.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4682 "2025-04-07T18:43:47Z")

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I think we all agree on the general objectives. We just differ on where to draw the lines of too early or late.

Which is good, because it gives us something to talk about while we wait for the next troll.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4683 "2025-04-07T19:27:07Z")

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It’s taken a little while, but I’m now at the point of thinking the reason DocCathode is fighting so hard to keep deepfake porn legal is because that’s what he faps to. His insistence that it doesn’t count because it’s not “really” the person depicted being violated is starting to sound awfully defensive.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4684 "2025-04-07T19:43:57Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It’s taken a little while, but I’m now at the point of thinking the reason DocCathode is fighting so hard to keep deepfake porn legal is because that’s what he faps to.

Huh. Try again.  
Also, I can see ‘DocCathode just does not get it- and it aggravates me!’  
Why the leap directly to personal insults?

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> His insistence that it doesn’t count because it’s not “really” the person depicted being violated is starting to sound awfully defensive.

Where did I say “it doesn’t count”? I said, and continue to say that the definition you quoted does not include deep fakes. The one **Jophiel** quoted _from the same site_ is about deep fakes. You can say deep fakes _should_ be included in the definition you quoted. They are not. Especially since the term “deep fakes” appears on the site elsewhere. If they meant for deep fakes to be included, why mention them elsewhere but not in the list you quoted?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4685 "2025-04-07T19:46:11Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Why the leap directly to personal insults?

Because Pit, and I don’t have to be polite about someone playing “cute” games about what’s “technically” sexual violation here.

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Where did I say “it doesn’t count”?

Every place you said it shouldn’t be illegal.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4686 "2025-04-07T19:47:00Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I really cannot _recall_ any poster. That will be remedied by a counterexample.

I would reluctantly point to myself as a possible counterexample. To be honest, and one of the reasons I had to re-examine myself _hard_ after @Johnny_Bravo chastised me on being over-eager, is that I myself match a LOT of the profiles for a troll or returning trock.

I was a long time lurker (not directly, but via threadspotting from links on the [straightdope.com](http://straightdope.com) page back when that was a thing), and when I joined, I was quite familiar with board styles and most but not all of the rules. It was during the really unpleasant days of 2020, where I was isolated, and absolutely not at my best due to the realities of Covid AND the ugly bits nearer the end of Trump 1.0. And yes I jumped into threads I thought interesting, and I fully admit the first thread I started was provocative and NOT in a good way, to which I ended up apologizing for in thread.

To the best of my knowledge, outside maaaaaybe one or two possible subtle digs, no one seemed to dig into me as a possible/probable trock, and I have no desire to do research to find out if I am wrong.

Aside: THANK YOU @gyrate for setting up a new thread to end the single topic pitting. I greatly appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4687 "2025-04-07T20:32:28Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> I really cannot _recall_ any poster. That will be remedied by a counterexample.

I remember when Jamie/Ambivalid first showed up and started a few controversial threads. Over the course of a year or so he seemed to calm down, stopped posting about the same thing all the time (and I get that it must have consumed his life at the time) and started meshing better with everyone. I don’t recall how long before he joined that he had his accident, but I remember he had a lot of pent up frustration and anger when started posting.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4688 "2025-04-07T20:45:19Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Because Pit, and I don’t have to be polite about someone playing “cute” games about what’s “technically” sexual violation here.

I’m playing :“cute” games? First, why not say that in your post here instead of

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> t’s taken a little while, but I’m now at the point of thinking the reason DocCathode is fighting so hard to keep deepfake porn legal is because that’s what he faps to.

That still strikes me as unnecessary.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Every place you said it shouldn’t be illegal.

Again, there are all kinds of things I find repulsive that I don’t think should be criminalized. I have asked how _under the law_ a deep fake is different from other images that are legal. I have not received an answer.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4689 "2025-04-07T22:36:39Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> First, why not say that in your post here

Because what I said in my first post is _also_ what i think.

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> That still strikes me as unnecessary.

Still not hearing a denial…

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4690 "2025-04-07T22:47:36Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Still not hearing a denial…

Sigh,

The following statement posted earlier (here it is so nobody has to scroll up)

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> It’s taken a little while, but I’m now at the point of thinking the reason DocCathode is fighting so hard to keep deepfake porn legal is because that’s what he faps to.

Is entirely and completely false. It has no basis in reality whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4691 "2025-04-08T03:51:47Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Aside: THANK YOU @gyrate for setting up a new thread to end the single topic pitting. I greatly appreciate it.

I agree, it was a classy move.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4692 "2025-04-08T18:45:06Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> To be honest, and one of the reasons I had to re-examine myself _hard_ after @Johnny_Bravo chastised me on being over-eager, is that I myself match a LOT of the profiles for a troll or returning trock.

This is very kind of you to say. I know I’ve yelled at this particular cloud in the past and I’m gratified to hear that it was constructive.

On the other hand, agreeing to become a mod is maybe a bridge too far in terms of self-flagellattion.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4693 "2025-04-08T19:22:02Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> On the other hand, agreeing to become a mod is maybe a bridge too far in terms of self-flagellattion.

Zing!

Point to your side.

But at least I’m not on a constant loop of the Disco Duck from a prior penance.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4694 "2025-04-08T23:45:26Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I agree, it was a classy move.

Thank you but I should have done it sooner. It’s gone a bit lively over there.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4695 "2025-04-10T04:11:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Do you think platforming a speaker at the RNC whose views they well know is a “secret”?

Little help, please? What does “platforming” mean when used in this sense?

I Googled and only found references to video games.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4696 "2025-04-10T04:14:14Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> Little help, please? What does “platforming” mean when used in this sense?

The opposite of deplatforming.

> **[Deplatforming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deplatforming)**
>
> Deplatforming, also known as no-platforming, is a boycott on an individual or group by removing the platforms used to share their information or ideas. The term is commonly associated with social media.
> As early as 2015, platforms such as Reddit began to enforce selective bans based, for example, on terms of service that prohibit "hate speech". A famous example of deplatforming was Twitter's ban of then-US President Donald Trump shortly after the January 6 United States Capitol attack.
> In the...

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2025, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4697 "2025-04-10T04:15:59Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> The opposite of deplatforming

Alrighty. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4698 "2025-04-12T05:11:51Z")

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Der\_Trihs is waving around his genocide boner in the Greenland thread again. I swear you could start a thread about the campaign Rural Fire District Commissioner in your area and he’d find a way to turn it into “REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BURN THE COUNTY TO THE GROUND AND JERK OFF WHILE THEY WATCH YOUR NEIGHBORS’ FLESH MELT OFF THEIR BONES”.

Dude needs a hobby.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4699 "2025-04-12T06:14:11Z")

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Your criticism might have more weight if you weren’t a fascist boot-licker.

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