# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4700 "2025-04-12T06:27:49Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Your criticism might have more weight if you weren’t a fascist boot-licker

Oh yeah. All us fascist boot-lickers love Luigi Mangione, hate Trump, and want AOC to run for president.

I refer you upthread.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Once someone becomes extreme enough on any topic, they often go over a psychological “event horizon” into a reality-distorted place where _everyone_ less zealous than they is clearly an extremist for the opposite position.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4701 "2025-04-12T10:40:34Z")

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@Smapti: Thanks for the shout-out. I was sorta proud of that sentence.

  

In response to no particular poster but to extremists in general …

If the jackboot fits, wear it. Loud and Proud. That way we can hear you coming and flip on the “Ignore” field.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4702 "2025-04-12T13:47:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Dude needs a hobby.

That **IS** his hobby.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4703 "2025-04-12T15:48:51Z")

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_This place_ is our hobby is an admission that probably too many of us can make. Me first.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4704 "2025-04-12T15:49:48Z")

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Mea culpa, me second.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4705 "2025-04-12T16:07:39Z")

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I refuse to admit it

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4706 "2025-04-12T17:44:04Z")

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Oh, I’ll go further, this place IS my life.

(Tee-hee 😊)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4707 "2025-04-12T18:21:17Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> _This place_ is our hobby is an admission that probably too many of us can make. Me first.

I think it is better described as a Third Place:

> **[Third place](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place)**
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> In sociology, the third place refers to the social surroundings that are separate from the two usual social environments of home ("first place") and the workplace ("second place"). Examples of third places include churches, cafes, bars, clubs, libraries, gyms, bookstores, hackerspaces, stoops, parks, and theaters, among others. In his book The Great Good Place (1989), Ray Oldenburg argues that third places are important for democracy, civic engagement, and a sense of place. Oldenburg's coauthor K...

We’re like _Cheers_, except everyone is Cliff Clavin.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4708 "2025-04-12T19:00:13Z")

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And you gotta BYOB and there’s no bartender.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4709 "2025-04-12T19:44:13Z")

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Wait a minute, I decided to work (unpaid) at the third place, which makes it my second place, but I do it from home, my first place, but it’s supposed to be my third place, but I work here so it’s my second…

🤯 🤯 🤯

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4710 "2025-04-12T19:56:34Z")

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There I go, back on third again!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4711 "2025-04-12T20:20:00Z")

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Hmmm. Maybe i need to rethink my life choices.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4712 "2025-04-12T20:41:13Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Maybe i need to rethink my life choices.

Careful what you say!

> **[G'Gugvuntts](https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/G%27Gugvuntts)**
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> The G'Gugvuntts were a race of beings who had war declared on them by the Vl'Hurgs, as a result of Arthur Dent's voice reaching them through a freak wormhole. Although he said the apparently innocuous "I seem to be having this tremendous difficulty...

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4713 "2025-04-12T20:53:03Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I think it is better described as a Third Place:

I’ll respect it’s your Third Space, but since there is only a cat at home, it’s _my_ Second Place (where I’m known and interact daily with people known to me). The library and librarians and my literacy students are _my_ Third Space and certainly not daily, but weekly if I’m lucky.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4714 "2025-04-12T21:55:54Z")

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If you see Abbott or Costello coming, run the other way!!!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4715 "2025-04-13T04:49:01Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Wait a minute, I decided to work (unpaid) at the third place, which makes it my second place, but I do it from home, my first place, but it’s supposed to be my third place, but I work here so it’s my second…

[Careful, there!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkX7IW7jpMw)

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4716 "2025-04-13T08:15:18Z")

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> [@Is There Any Practical Way to Increase the Birthrate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-practical-way-to-increase-the-birthrate/1012655/613):
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> Up until very recently women were slaves in all but name.

> [@Is There Any Practical Way to Increase the Birthrate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-any-practical-way-to-increase-the-birthrate/1012655/621):
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> The women were just voiceless chattel.

What the fuck, dude? This is a fantasy, and a disturbing one to keep harping on.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4717 "2025-04-13T15:19:59Z")

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Yeah, even in places where women are legally chattel, they are far from voiceless.

I took a college class on nomads, and the professor and the grad student had both spent a lot of time wandering around with pastoral nomads. And I’m that society, the men basically owned the women, and officially, the men made all the decisions. The women weren’t even in the tent when the tribe decided where to go next. But they were sitting outside, listening. And each woman had told her husband what her preference was. And if he didn’t argue for it, he’d have burnt coffee for days. Most of those decisions made by the men were in line with their wive’s preferences.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4718 "2025-04-13T16:35:06Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> What the fuck, dude? This is a fantasy, and a disturbing one to keep harping on.

They were traded between father and husband without their consent, it was legal to rape them, and legal to beat them. That’s a slave.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/4719 "2025-04-13T16:43:40Z")

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A small part of my bloodline is Shawnee. Through my research I learned the Shawnee were a bit more progressive vs. other tribes when it came to women:

> When Thomas Chalkley, a minister of the London Society of Quakers, visited the tribe in 1706, he mentioned that among the peculiarities of the Shawnee was its custom of admitting women to its councils, stating:
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> “In the council was a woman who took a part in the deliberations of this council, as well as upon all important occasions. On the interpreter being questioned why they permitted a woman to take so responsible a part in their councils, he replied that some women were wiser than some men and that they had not done anything for years without the council of this ancient, grave woman, who spoke much in this council.”

([Link](https://www.legendsofamerica.com/shawnee-indians/))

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