# What were you THINKING? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 236
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5000 "2025-06-06T16:05:46Z")
Bullshit. If you were answering some hypothetical question and I suggested internalised racism might have influenced your judgement, would you react the same way? It’s a common human failing to be influenced in our judgement by what we _want_ to be true. I wasn’t accusing you of anything more than that, and I wasn’t replying to only you. I know perfectly well you aren’t actually in this situation. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5001 "2025-06-06T16:11:15Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > What the fuck? This is entirely unwarranted based on Demon tree’s actions in that thread. What post do you think was _bad faith_? He thinks _all_ my posts are bad faith because he’s biased as fuck. Interpreting everything in the worst possible light. He also made false accusations against me in ATMB and didn’t bother to respond when I showed he was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5002 "2025-06-06T16:12:03Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > It’s a common human failing to be influenced in our judgement by what we _want_ to be true. For example: I think LHOD _wants_ you to be trolling, because he doesn’t want to reconcile the idea that you might be operating in good faith with the fact that you’ve disagreed with him over certain trans issues. So he will always read your posts with the least amount of charity possible. I know the feeling, because back in the day when we argued bitterly over misgendering, I really wanted DemonTree to be a troll, too, and it colored the way I viewed what she was saying to a degree that was deeply unhelpful. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5003 "2025-06-06T16:13:08Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > He thinks _all_ my posts are bad faith because he’s biased as fuck. Interpreting everything in the worst possible light. Yeah, that’s a more concise way to put what I said. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5004 "2025-06-06T16:21:51Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I know the feeling, because back in the day when we argued bitterly over misgendering, I really wanted DemonTree to be a troll, too, and it colored the way I viewed what she was saying to a degree that was deeply unhelpful. Thank you. Communication is hard enough at the best of times; I know I have jumped to wrong conclusions in the past because I disliked (or more than disliked) another poster. I didn’t intend to attack anyone personally in my original comment. It was a general observation, but I knew it could potentially be seen as an attack. I was trying to be tactful, not passive aggressive. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5005 "2025-06-06T16:30:38Z")
I think @Demontree was, and continues to be, a bad-faith poster. I have yet to have an encounter with her to suggest otherwise. The best I can say for her is that she buys her own bullshit. I have no particular interest in dissecting it beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5006 "2025-06-06T17:03:13Z")
I agree. It’s always reasonable to assume bad faith with DT. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5007 "2025-06-06T17:31:52Z")
Bad faith and blind ignorance often look similar from the outside. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5008 "2025-06-06T19:05:34Z")
I am neither. There’s just no way to convince someone you are speaking in good faith if they are determined to believe otherwise, because they simply disbelieve everything you say. Which fine, they can believe what they want. But LHoD keeps accusing me of shit I didn’t do, and I’m sick of it. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5009 "2025-06-06T19:05:43Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > she buys her own bullshit Isn’t that pretty much the definition of _not_ posting in bad faith? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5010 "2025-06-06T19:06:57Z")
Self-deception is not good faith. What it comes down to is that I don’t believe she’ll engage in a way that I find intellectually honest. It’s a weird situation: on the rare occasions I’ve made it clear to someone that I don’t think they’re engaging in good faith, they’ve generally taken the hint and stopped trying to engage with me. She hasn’t. So I’m going to take a step I’ve not taken in more than a decade. I’m gonna use the block feature. Going forward, hopefully that’ll help me not get irritated at her passive-aggressive ad hominem bullshittery. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5011 "2025-06-06T19:07:28Z")
What is she lying (to herself?) about again? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5012 "2025-06-06T19:35:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Lotta folks seem to assume that _every_ step-relationship is 1 inch from becoming abusive. That thread feels like a number of people who need to unpack at their therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5013 "2025-06-06T19:49:30Z")
Oh, I didn’t see your edit. I gotta say, this: > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > So I’m going to take a step I’ve not taken in more than a decade. I’m gonna use the block feature. Going forward, hopefully that’ll help me not get irritated at her passive-aggressive ad hominem bullshittery. Is absolutely unhinged. DemonTree hasn’t directed any passive aggressive ad hominem bullshittery towards you in that thread. Are you OK? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5014 "2025-06-06T19:56:40Z")
He’s not blocking her because of that thread, he’s saying he should have done it long ago. She’s been a bad faith poster for a long, long time. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5015 "2025-06-06T19:57:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > She’s been a bad faith poster for a long, long time. She’s disagreed with you (and with me, at times) about trans issues for a long, long time. That doesn’t make her a bad faith poster. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5016 "2025-06-06T19:58:17Z")
I agree, it’s the long history of bad faith in so many other threads. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5017 "2025-06-06T19:59:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I agree, it’s the long history of bad faith in so many other threads I’m sure you’re just full of examples that are so obvious to you that you don’t think you even need to share them, but I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5018 "2025-06-06T20:00:12Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That doesn’t make her a bad faith poster. IMO, she’s a tiresome, tone-deaf, witnessing, apparently true-believer poster, who cherry-picks her cites. And _that’s_ why I stopped seeing her posts a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/5019 "2025-06-06T20:03:06Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I’m sure you’re just full of examples that are so obvious to you that you don’t think you even need to share them, but I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. How nice for you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=235) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=237)