# What were you THINKING? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 352
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7411 "2026-06-18T00:45:58Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Yet the stories still exist. Yeah, they exist among people who heard them all the time _decades_ ago. You seem to be under the impression that they are still being perpetuated. Do you have any evidence of that other than a handful of people remembering them from their youth on a somewhat obscure message board? Do you actually think that anyone is still spreading these rumors? Seriously, if you can’t get one person to agree with your position, maybe it’s time to rethink that position. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7412 "2026-06-18T00:58:39Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Tell me you don’t know how urban legends work without telling me… And since this is the Pit, you can fuck right off with your condescending bullshit. You’re really just mad that you can’t get anyone to buy into your theory. That’s what happens when you posit a stupid theory. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7413 "2026-06-18T05:06:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > So, you’re now doing the exact same thing you were complaining about others doing. Nice try, but no. > [@Miller](#): > > “you’re not like other girls” is _not_ perpetuating misogyny? No? It’s …calling out self-hating misogyny. > [@Kron](#): > > …what the hell are you talking about? You missed the “joke”? > [@CairoCarol](#): > > When every single participant in the conversation already knows and agrees that it’s acid Do they? Because why is this in the Pit, then? > [@CairoCarol](#): > > I did point out that the rumor was “bigoted.” I missed that, I just searched around “homophobic”, when I started getting pushback here. My apologies. > [@Disinfectus](#): > > Do you have any evidence of that other than a handful of people remembering them from their youth on a somewhat obscure message board? The fact that they got transferred to [Jon Bonjovi](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/12yjluc/comment/jhos8k3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), George Michael, [Britney Spears](https://folklore.usc.edu/britney-spears-story/) and [Lil Kim](https://www.xxlmag.com/10-outrageous-urban-legends-hip-hop/) tells me they get passed on and repurposed generation to generation. > [@Disinfectus](#): > > And since this is the Pit, you can fuck right off with your condescending bullshit. And you can fuck off with your schoolboy toilet humour. > [@Disinfectus](#): > > You’re really just mad that you can’t get anyone to buy into your theory. So you _don’t_ think they’re homophobic? Because that’s my only theory here. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7414 "2026-06-18T05:20:28Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The fact that they got transferred to [Jon Bonjovi](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/12yjluc/comment/jhos8k3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), George Michael, [Britney Spears](https://folklore.usc.edu/britney-spears-story/) and [Lil Kim](https://www.xxlmag.com/10-outrageous-urban-legends-hip-hop/) tells me they get passed on and repurposed generation to generation. Umm, Britney and Lil Kim are kind of a sign that it’s not completely homophobic. It really is just a completely stupid rumor that gets repeated, and anyone who has watched a man have an orgasm knows it’s bullshit. As your link on Britney basically states, it’s a way to “other” the famous for having imagined risque sex lives at this point. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7415 "2026-06-18T05:25:03Z")
_Every_ incarnation of the rumour isn’t homophobic, but the Rod Stewart one definitely is and new versions often are. And slut shaming isn’t any better. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7416 "2026-06-18T05:27:32Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > And slut shaming isn’t any better. It’s still obvious bullshit, and no thinking person believes it for a minute. Also, the people you’re railing against on this board weren’t promulgating it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7417 "2026-06-18T05:31:17Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > It’s still obvious bullshit, and no thinking person believes it for a minute. I guess it mustn’t hurt anyone, then… > [@scabpicker](#): > > Also, the people you’re railing against on this board weren’t promulgating it. I’ll repeat what I said initially: > [@MrDibble](#): > > continuing to discuss this in any form other than condemning their very existence ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7418 "2026-06-18T05:33:21Z")
Yeah, you want to have a hissy fit because everyone doesn’t conform to your sense of decorum. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7419 "2026-06-18T05:37:16Z")
Well, because I’d greatly prefer not to have the homophobic shit dragged into this thread along with the deserved pitting of the person who caused that. But potayto, potahto. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7420 "2026-06-18T05:38:46Z")
Please see earlier response. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7421 "2026-06-18T05:58:09Z")
Let’s at least get the sequence right. What got dragged in here was the Jamie Lee Curtis rumor, and idiocy that maybe it was true because of bigoted and stupid reasons. Some upset by some to my pointing out that those “reasons” had been part and parcel of that rumor forever, not new thoughts just created, for reasons I don’t get, someone I think conflating transgender and intersex conditions. and really then just continuing the spirit of the old bumped thread that was the source of the post here: share your remembered obviously crazy stupid rumors. Honestly a digression for this thread but that seems to be thus thread’s thing. Of course the crazy rumors got legs often because they “confirm” some folk’s prejudices. There were no homophobic jokes told. Pretty much everyone but you understood that the butt if the “joke” here was anyone who ever believed the rumors, including some of our younger selves. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7422 "2026-06-18T11:56:12Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > No? It’s …calling out self-hating misogyny. Only if you take the misogyny as sarcastically ironic. It is, openly on its surface, misogynistic. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7423 "2026-06-18T12:37:54Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > And you can fuck off with your schoolboy toilet humour. I don’t believe I shared any schoolboy toilet humor. Perhaps you could quote that post. > [@MrDibble](#): > > So you _don’t_ think they’re homophobic? Because that’s my only theory here. No, it isn’t. Your theory includes the ludicrous idea that people that discuss the ridiculousness of the rumor are continuing to perpetuate it by simply discussing how stupid the rumor was in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7424 "2026-06-18T14:50:29Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > someone I think conflating transgender and intersex conditions Please remember that **nearwildheaven** stated: > [@What's your favorite celebrity rumor (that does not involve Richard Gere or Rod Stewart)?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-your-favorite-celebrity-rumor-that-does-not-involve-richard-gere-or-rod-stewart/1020100/103): > > I’ve also heard that rumor about Jamie Lee Curtis actually being a genetic male. How is “actually being a genetic male” and living as a woman _not_ saying that Curtis is transgender? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7425 "2026-06-18T15:02:02Z")
There is a condition called AIS (Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome), where a person can have XY chromosomes, and their body produces testosterone and other male hormones, but for whatever reason the rest of the body doesn’t respond to those androgen hormones, and as a result, the body develops mostly like a female body. People with this condition are almost always assigned female at birth, and mostly live their lives as female. They’re not usually even diagnosed until puberty, because they (probably) won’t have periods. The definitions of things like “transgender” get muddled when the physical aspects of sex don’t agree with each other, but “assigned female at birth and live life as female” is generally not considered transgender. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7426 "2026-06-18T15:03:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “Remember these dumb stories about Rod Stewart?” is perpetuating homophobia, but “you’re not like other girls” is _not_ perpetuating misogyny? What sort of reasoning are you using that justifies the second but not the first? > **[Motivated reasoning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivated_reasoning)** > > Motivated reasoning is a mental process through which individuals access, construct, and evaluate their beliefs in response to new information or experiences where their biases cause them to arrive at desired conclusions. While most people may be more likely to arrive at conclusions they want, such desires are generally constrained by the ability to construct a reasonable justification. > Motivated reasoning may involve personal choices, such as continuing to smoke after encountering evidence of ... ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7427 "2026-06-18T15:12:03Z")
Do you think motivated reasoning explains why you supported the Iran war despite the many, many massive red flags that lead to the pathetic failure so many of us predicted? What were you thinking? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7428 "2026-06-18T15:12:09Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > No? It’s …calling out self-hating misogyny. And the posts you’re so worked up over were calling out homophobia, so again, not seeing the difference here. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7429 "2026-06-18T15:13:07Z")
There’s already a whole other thread dedicated to your endless callouts over the Iran war, you have to do that here, too? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2026, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/7430 "2026-06-18T15:14:32Z")
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