# What were you THINKING? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1061 "2024-02-20T19:31:38Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’m gonna gently suggest you may have misunderstood what you quoted, and may want to reread it. Referring to > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Things made by you and felt by you can still stink up a place. If you want your opinion to get any goddamn respect–and this is something that third graders can understand–it needs to be logically connected to facts in a persuasive manner. > > Your opinion is your own, and I hereby pinky swear I won’t call the Opinion Police to break your door down and arrest you for having an opinion. Everybody else, would y’all give a similar pinky swear? Because beck is fucking terrified that we’re trying to use our mind control powers to rob her of her opinion. > > But if you offer your opinion without tying it to relevant facts in a persuasive manner, expect it to be derided. If your opinion is that people should suffer consequences, and you don’t offer relevant and persuasive facts, expect people to form an opinion of **you**. (Underline added for emphasis; large quote maintained for context.) What I find toxic about your post was that instead of talking about evaluating points of discussion, your focus was on insulting the poster based on whether their opinions were persuasive or deserved respect. I’ll accept that you intended the former, but the way you expressed it was toxic. It’s the Pit, so it’s all within the rules, but this attitude enshittifies the board. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1062 "2024-02-20T19:32:02Z")
I’m kind of on the “disinherit my son” side, but he mostly eats margherita these days. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1063 "2024-02-20T19:32:33Z")
I’m not gonna stay in the box you’ve picked out for me. You don’t like my opinion on pornography. Too bad. I have it. I’m not gonna stop having it. For your edification, Porn is bad for women. It’s degrading, demeaning, sometimes dangerous. Disrespectful, ugly and depressing. It is good for no one but the nasty people who produce it. It’s made for men who spend many many dollars filling those people’s pockets with ill-gotten gains. To the detriment of all society. Keep availing yourself of it. My opinion is so small and less dangerous than the millions of men and young boys getting wrong ideas about real sexual relationships. Do you realize what YOU’RE doing to the worlds view of women and how they are treated? You make life hard for ALL women. Keep on. Just keep on…How do you sleep at night? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1064 "2024-02-20T19:33:47Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Yep. That’s it. I get it. Go back to your place, Ol’ simpleton Beck. You dimwit. We don’t need your input. > You just want attention, after all. You get none anywhere else. That must be it, you rural fuckin’ old lady. Oh goodie, we are in the “woe is me, I wither on the cross” stage of the Beck cycle. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > My faucet is leaking and my ass never got fucked So @MrDibble was right about why you hate porn? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1065 "2024-02-20T19:34:54Z")
Cut my posts for your own shits and giggles. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1066 "2024-02-20T19:37:26Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Do you realize what YOU’RE doing to the worlds view of women and how they are treated? > You make life hard for ALL women. You’re the one who thinks it’s appropriate to fire a woman for working in porn. Only person making life hard for women here is you. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1067 "2024-02-20T19:37:44Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > whore” is a pretty classic misogynist slur. [![](https://i.imgur.com/we54OrB.gif) ](https://i.imgur.com/we54OrB.gif) Sorry, I get the point, but it did remind me of that quote. Not that Joss Whedon is exactly a good reference point on misogyny … > [@Atamasama](#): > > I prefer the term attention junkie. This is a better term, yes. > [@Pleonast](#): > > I’m saddened that you’d post something like this. I don’t give a fuck. > [@Pleonast](#): > > I look forward to reading your posts, but this almost makes we want to put you on ignore. Go right ahead. > [@Pleonast](#): > > The goal of this site is not “respect” or “persuasion”. This site has no goal. > [@Sylvanz](#): > > I’m glad I’m not the only one who had an issue with this. I found it pretty disturbing. Again - I don’t give a fuck. > [@Pleonast](#): > > things like “respect” and “persuasion” are irrelevant when evaluating facts. Oh, for fuck’s sake - this is NOT RoboForum on Planet Vulcan, and people who think that is _all_ it it is are more of a problem than Becks, as far as I’m concerned. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1068 "2024-02-20T19:38:56Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > I’m saddened that you’d post something like this. I look forward to reading your posts, but this almost makes we want to put you on ignore. What’s the difference between that, and Beck implying in every other post that the only reason a male would disagree with her is because they want to ensure the degrading porn keeps flowing? Both as misogynistic/misandristic assumptions on the motivation behind supporting/rejecting this industry. MrDibble simply gave Beck a taste of her own medicine. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1069 "2024-02-20T19:39:42Z")
The point is obvious. Either conform to an accepted set of opinions and writing styles or be subjected to sadistic verbal abuse by the damaged folks who de facto run this place. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1070 "2024-02-20T19:39:46Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > I just don’t want to be told I can’t have my opinion Luckily, _that never fucking happened_. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1071 "2024-02-20T19:41:45Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@scudsucker](#): > > > > What is your stance on pineapple? > > I’m on the “don’t fire a teacher because they eat pineapple pizza” side. I disagree. Some things are simply beyond the pale for an educator to do. This could put children at risk of real harm. Pineapple pizza is _disgusting_. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1072 "2024-02-20T19:42:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > The point is obvious. Either conform to an accepted set of opinions and writing styles or be subjected to sadistic verbal abuse by the damaged folks who de facto run this place. Oh fuck off, you pretentious arsehole. Go “hive mind” somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1073 "2024-02-20T19:43:19Z")
Bzzzzz! ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1074 "2024-02-20T19:45:11Z")
Hilarious. It is as if I have never before seen that response from you. I almost LOL’d. But, no. Late ETA: I’m going to decline further commentary, because now @octopus has entered, I do not want it to turn into the usual “all about @octopus” thread. I think I have said enough anyway. Except this: fuck you, @octopus. You genuinely are a drain on this forum. A fucking idiot. A nincompoop. A person my mother would in polite conversation refer to as “educationaly sub-normal” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1075 "2024-02-20T19:49:46Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > I’m saddened that you’d post something like this. I look forward to reading your posts, but this almost makes we want to put you on ignore. > > What’s the difference between that, and Beck implying in every other post that the only reason a male would disagree with her is because they want to ensure the degrading porn keeps flowing? The difference is I respect @MrDibble as an informative poster. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1076 "2024-02-20T19:50:04Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > What I find toxic about your post was that instead of talking about evaluating points of discussion, your focus was on insulting the poster based on whether their opinions were persuasive or deserved respect. I’ll accept that you intended the former, but the way you expressed it was toxic. > > It’s the Pit, so it’s all within the rules, but this attitude enshittifies the board. It’s a little surreal that in this thread you would pick on _that_ pretty reasonable attempt by LHoD to explain something and see a personal insult there. I can point you toward a couple of personal insults if you’re having trouble finding them. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1077 "2024-02-20T19:51:17Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > I’m saddened that you’d post something like this. I look forward to reading your posts, but this almost makes we want to put you on ignore. > > I’m glad I’m not the only one who had an issue with this. I found it pretty disturbing. Thirded. > [@Pleonast](#): > > > [@mjmartin](#): > > > > What’s the point of all this? Beck has written some stuff that many (myself included) disagree with, and in a far from perfect manner. Okay. You’ve made your points. Some have made them in a terribly mean and frankly abusive way. Let it die. > > On preview, this! Also thirded. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1078 "2024-02-20T19:56:31Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@Pleonast](#): > > > > What I find toxic about your post was that instead of talking about evaluating points of discussion, your focus was on insulting the poster based on whether their opinions were persuasive or deserved respect. I’ll accept that you intended the former, but the way you expressed it was toxic. > > > > It’s the Pit, so it’s all within the rules, but this attitude enshittifies the board. > > It’s a little surreal that in this thread you would pick on _that_ pretty reasonable attempt by LHoD to explain something and see a personal insult there.   It’s the Pit; there’s always insults. I just skim past them. But @Left_Hand_of_Dorkness was advocating for shitty behavior in non-Pit forums. Our mods are doing a good job, but those who think we should mock posters because of how persuasive they are or how much respect they deserve makes it worse. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1079 "2024-02-20T19:58:03Z")
A third “I don’t give a fuck”. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1080 "2024-02-20T19:59:16Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > How do you sleep at night? You know what? I owe you an apology. Earlier I said you could not possibly get more ridiculous. I was clearly wrong. Your Insane-Clown-Posse-Except-Mean-and-Stupid schtick has depths which I did not, _cannot_, fathom. I should not have tried. You will almost certainly continue to find depths of absurdity which I could not predict, and I apologize for trying. Anyway: @Pleonast, she’s been posting along these lines both here and in IMHO for weeks now. My venting about her in the Pit is how I’m avoiding it elsewhere. The pit is a bit shitty, sure–but it’s my best effort to keep that shit out of IMHO, where she continues to celebrate the end of a teacher’s career based on the teacher’s off-campus activities, and continues to suggest that anyone who DOESN’T want to ruin this woman’s career must hate women. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=55)