# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1101 "2024-02-20T20:23:30Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> you’re

Your\*

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1102 "2024-02-20T20:24:10Z")

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Caught it, Quick draw

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1103 "2024-02-20T20:25:03Z")

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> [@mjmartin](#):
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> > [@MrDibble](#):
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> > A third “I don’t give a fuck”. ⁢
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> Yes. We all get that you don’t give a fuck.
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> But what are you trying to achieve? Just keep piling it on until Beck leaves the board? You want her to unconditionally surrender? Would you be talking about an elderly person not having anal sex with her husband in real life if she gets on your nerves? ⁢

She’s not being pitted for being annoying or getting on people’s nerves. She said a bunch of bigoted shit, and then became abusive to anyone who pointed that out, no matter how kind or unkind they were being.

And, yeah, I do think a lot of Dopers who don’t tolerate bigotry either want her to take back that ugly, evil garbage, or to leave the board. That’s not unusual: I can’t say I want her to continue posting if she can’t cut out the bigotry.

Bigotry isn’t a disagreement. It isn’t annoyance. It is morally wrong. Being a SWERF is not better than being a TERF. And you saw what happened to those posters.

I get it. You like her, so you feel sorry for her. But, if you look objectively, she’s not some sort of victim.

And it also disheartens me that @thorny_locust got on board with defending her, too. The other defenders were unfortunately expected—well except I didn’t know they still posted here.

And not you. You I don’t know. But you are severely underplaying the issue with Beck, and having a double standard when it comes to abuse. I suspect you just like Beck, but I ask you to take a step back and pretend it was someone else, and make it about some bigotry you care deeply about.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1104 "2024-02-20T20:27:27Z")

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You don’t get to play that card. I don’t care what your gender is. You’re acting like an asshole and an _attention seeking narcissist_. Further, you’re rather annoying at the best of times. I keep comparing you to a male poster in fact. This should devalue your reasoning a bit.

You might happen to be a woman, but that does not inform my opinion of your posting.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1105 "2024-02-20T20:28:55Z")

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What is swerf? And I don’t think it’s bigoted to not like porn. Jesus.  
I’m surely not the only person who thinks it’s over all a bad thing.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1106 "2024-02-20T20:30:35Z")

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You realize that calling out ugly verbal abuse is different than defending a particular person correct? As, for a real world example, one can critique Israel’s actions without being a Hamas defender. Some of these personal attacks are grotesque. Why, people are even commenting on her real life medical conditions! The reprehensibility!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1107 "2024-02-20T20:31:23Z")

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I don’t know this male person. And I don’t play cards. I am what I am. Narcissistic has never been it. I promise.  
What _are_ you talking about?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1108 "2024-02-20T20:31:28Z")

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I never did understand the Beck fan club and neither do I get the intensity of the contempt here.

Really we can all skip her contributions to other threads just as easily as we can skip anything entitled bad bad bad.

Respond to the actual point once but then you are making the choice to bang your head against the wall and to feed the hungry.

Why the need to continue to fruitlessly engage let alone to attack so obscenely?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1109 "2024-02-20T20:31:35Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I don’t think it’s bigoted to not like porn

“Not liking porn” is not remotely the extent of what you were pushing.

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**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1110 "2024-02-20T20:31:58Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And not you. You I don’t know. But you are severely underplaying the issue with Beck, and having a double standard when it comes to abuse. I suspect you just like Beck, but I ask you to take a step back and pretend it was someone else, and make it about some bigotry you care deeply about.

I have little or no opinion on Beck. I think she’s wrong on this issue. I think she’s been told she’s wrong many, many times. If she had gotten a warning or more for what she wrote, I wouldn’t have said a thing. I don’t like seeing a person laying on the ground being kicked. And that what this feels like.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1111 "2024-02-20T20:32:48Z")

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Hush. You do not matter to me anymore.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1112 "2024-02-20T20:32:51Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Again. Get back in your place little women. You don’t belong here. This is where the real men hang out. With the ugly words insults and attacks. Not for your virtuous, unfucked precious little ears to hear. Cover your eyes. You might see real men.
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> Good God. Y’all are displaying your smallness.  
> In many ways ⁢

No one has ever told you to stay out of the Pit because you are a woman. You were told that you can’t complain about people being mean to you, and then keep on being mean to everyone else.

This stuff here is what makes you seem like a completely different person. It’s not how “Bad, Bad, Bad Beck” talks. You have never before shown that you hate men so much.

And you have said repeatedly that you come here as the only place where you can socialize. Yet here you are attacking the mods. You don’t seem to care if you alienate everyone and lose all the friends you’ve had here.

All because they called you out for attacking sex workers. Is it really that important to you to hate on them that you’re willing to ruin everything?

I still will not attack you. Any regret I had for bringing up your sassiness is belayed becauase you keep being worse than anyone else.

Why? How does this end well for you?

ETA: I’m going out of my way. I normally would have dismissed you entirely by now. I did that YWTF and DemonTree. And, yes, you’re being just as bad as them.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1113 "2024-02-20T20:33:34Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Hush. You do not matter to me anymore.

Sure. That’s _totally_ what I’m hearing…

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1114 "2024-02-20T20:34:27Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Again. Get back in your place little women. You don’t belong here. This is where the real men hang out. With the ugly words insults and attacks. Not for your virtuous, unfucked precious little ears to hear. Cover your eyes. You might see real men.

It’s not about being a woman being put in her place. It’s about understanding where you are on the forum and respecting that. I’ve played in the Pit my entire time here. It’s for everyone. And I have been made to defend my positions in all forums with no regard whatsoever for my gender. That’s as it should be.

If you want respect on this board, become worthy of it. And please, stop making every post about yourself.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1115 "2024-02-20T20:35:04Z")

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A modest proposal if I may …

Since we’re up to 85 posts in 3 hours just about or by **beck** , plus most of the previous 75, maybe, just _maybe_, it’s time to get her her own thread and everyone drop this particular topic from this thread.

I’m up for that. Not to further tussle w **beck** ; I’m done. Just to clear this thread for its intended purpose.

YMMV etc

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1116 "2024-02-20T20:36:51Z")

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SWERF is like TERF. It stands for Sex Worker Exclusive Radical Feminist. It refers to those who attack people who voluntarily choose to do porn or other things.

You did not just attack porn. You attacked women who dare to voluntarily participate in it. And multiple people told you this, and you decided to accuse them of misogyny.

That’s RF part. It’s exactly why YWTF and DemonTree did what they did.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1117 "2024-02-20T20:37:06Z")

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Yeah, I just reported the thread

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1118 "2024-02-20T20:37:27Z")

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She jumped into this thread to make it about herself and succeeded. You are misrepresenting what has happened here. Same in the other Pit thread. There is a decent chance she is enjoying the attention, no idea.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Since we’re up to 85 posts in 3 hours just about or by **beck** , plus mostvof the previous 75, maybe, just _maybe_, it’s time to get her her own thread and everyone drop this particular topic from this thread.

That is up to @Miller, but I think it is a sound idea. If he asks me to do so, I will do it in fact. But his call.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1119 "2024-02-20T20:37:44Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> just _maybe_, it’s time to get her her own thread and everyone drop this particular topic from this thread.

Happy to do that if someone else makes it or revives one of the existing ones.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1120 "2024-02-20T20:39:57Z")

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I do not hate men. I hate men who try and tell me how to be. I’ve lived with that thru my life. I do not like it.

I so don’t give a crap what that teacher did or will do.

My problem was the pornography.

I stated my objections. In a IMHO thread. Where my opinion was asked for. Now I’m jumped on.

It’s a sad thing you guys have to repeatedly tell how unimportant and stupid I am, yet you keep on keeping on. What’s the real problem here?  
It’s not me as much as yourselves.

Threatened maybe? A little bit?

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