# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1181 "2024-02-21T02:36:59Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> I know why I put DrDeth on ignore: it’s because he pissed me off one too many times with his “gotcha” (but not really, because he doesn’t know WTF he is talking about) style of posting.

In my case it’s because DD intentionally misrepresents what I say and calling him out for doing this gets me in trouble for some reason so I just have to ignore him.

I can’t wait until his fucking ignorant troll ass gets banned permanently. (Yeah he’s a straight up fucking troll.)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1182 "2024-02-21T05:11:03Z")

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Urk. I suppose i ought to catch up on that thread. But that sounds like he deserves his own pit thread, not this generic “what were you thinking” thread.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1183 "2024-02-21T11:46:05Z")

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Interesting thread you pick to come in out of the cold. Sounds to me like you’re a Bazillion year old sock comes out to rage wank with the beat down boyz.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1184 "2024-02-21T12:46:58Z")

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Jesus Fucking Christ! What is it about this thread that’s brought out the worst in everyone, and unleashed such a hateful torrent of unbridled hostility? I’m seeing normally courteous posters turning into jerks, and a few posters who are habitually abrasive turning the hostility up to 11. And it’s all directed against a poster who I’ve considered often charming and amusing, and at worst, harmless.

It’s depressing. I joined this board more than ten years ago because it had a far more informed level of discourse than most, with a disproportianate number of educated professionals. I generally enjoy this environment. But there’s an old adage that “the true character of a person can be judged by how they treat those who can do nothing for them”. Behold the evidence on display here, on this anonymous message board. The only problem with the virtual nature of this digital world is that the targets of the vitriol are actual human beings with actual feelings.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1185 "2024-02-21T12:58:42Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The only problem with the virtual nature of this digital world is that the targets of the vitriol are actual human beings with actual feelings.

Like all those teachers who you’d fire on the spot?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1186 "2024-02-21T13:13:09Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Like all those teachers who you’d fire on the spot?

“the true character of a person can be judged by how they treat those who can do nothing for them."

If he came in here guns-ablazing against everyone, including Beck with her nasty insinuations about everyone who disagrees with her, I’d think he was sincere. But he’s chosen his side, and he not only doesn’t criticize her nastiness, he defends her as “often charming and amusing, and at worst, harmless.”

He genuinely has no idea of his own bias.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1187 "2024-02-21T13:14:56Z")

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The silliest part, the whole thing died down and he just threw gasoline on the smoldering ashes.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1188 "2024-02-21T13:25:11Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> he just threw gasoline on the smoldering ashes

Eh?? The last thing I want to to do is reignite the hostility. This was more like a post-fire forensic analysis. The viciousness of this thread really bothered me. I debated whether or not I should comment on it. Eventually I did. The End.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1189 "2024-02-21T13:25:26Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Without some other evidence, I don’t think that having sex, even on camera, indicates a likelihood of doing so in the classroom. I don’t know whether there was further evidence in the specific case.

I think we can all agree that having sex is OK, it’s the selling of sex visuals that is being questioned.

I’m a Scoutmaster, does anyone want their teenage boys (and now girls) going camping with a dude who actively promotes his sexual activity online? I want to be an open hearted guy, but that idea just skeeves me out.

While something might not happen IN the classroom, teachers have private conversations with students all the time, we’re not jumping the Snake River Canyon to think sex-cam teacher might see a sex-cam business opportunity with a student. Do YOU want to be the principal who says “What’s the chance of THAT happening?”

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1190 "2024-02-21T13:33:38Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The viciousness of this thread really bothered me

What about the viciousness of saying, over and over again, that evertone who disagrees with Beck is a pathetic loser who can’t get his dick wet any other way than porn? Is _that_ “vicious” or is it just part of Beck’s harmless little old lady schtick?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1191 "2024-02-21T13:33:38Z")

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I was going to ask a follow up question, but i think that probably belongs in the thread on that topic, and not this pit thread. Hmm, where was that…

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1192 "2024-02-21T13:33:55Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> I’m a Scoutmaster, does anyone want their teenage boys (and now girls) going camping with a dude who actively promotes his sexual activity online? I want to be an open hearted guy, but that idea just skeeves me out.

Of the scoutmasters that have been accused or convicted of sexually abusing the kids in their care how many of them actively promoted their sexual activity online?

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> While something might not happen IN the classroom, teachers have private conversations with students all the time, we’re not jumping the Snake River Canyon to think sex-cam teacher might see a sex-cam business opportunity with a student. Do YOU want to be the principal who says “What’s the chance of THAT happening?”

Annnd we’re back to sex workers are grooming children yet again.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1193 "2024-02-21T13:35:59Z")

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That disappoints me. Just for the record, I’m a woman, i don’t use porn, and i don’t think the teacher should have been fired. I really don’t think I’ve opinion on “should she have been fired” has anything to do with whether one uses porn. Abd i think it’s nasty to imply that someone might be afraid their porn supply might be cut off if school teachers are fired for making porn.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1194 "2024-02-21T13:37:28Z")

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Ah, here it is

> [@How do we feel about teachers fired for posting homemade porn?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-we-feel-about-teachers-fired-for-posting-homemade-porn/994614/732):
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> I’m sure the sex in the bathroom was illegal too, so they could just say they were documenting an illegal act.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1195 "2024-02-21T13:37:52Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> something might not happen IN the classroom, teachers have private conversations with students all the time, we’re not jumping the Snake River Canyon to think sex-cam teacher might see a sex-cam business opportunity with a student.

This is why celibate nuns are the only people who should be teachers. We’re not jumping the Limpopo River to think teachers who fuck their wives or husbands might see a fucking opportunity with a student.

Wait, no, that’s _really fucking stupid_.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1196 "2024-02-21T13:47:27Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> That disappoints me. Just for the record, I’m a woman, i don’t use porn, and i don’t think the teacher should have been fired. I really don’t think I’ve opinion on “should she have been fired” has anything to do with whether one uses porn. Abd i think it’s nasty to imply that someone might be afraid their porn supply might be cut off if school teachers are fired for making porn.

Don’t worry, I’m pretty sure Beck made an exception for women who oppose her view on this topic. _You_ aren’t saying this because you want to keep the porn supply going; what did Beck say again? Oh yeah - you’re just a stupid young thing who needs to, and I quote, “put on her big girl panties” and “learn what men actually want to do to women”, and once you’ve had these experiences like good old Beck you’ll get wiser and realize you were wrong to not be violently opposed to sex workers.

[Never mind that some of the women opposed to Beck may well be older than her; all disagreement comes from ditzy young girls who just don’t know any better].

See, that’s what Beck (and the people lecturing us on how mean we are to her) is missing. This isn’t about her _having an opinion_, this is about the way he ascribes disgusting motivations to anyone who disagreed with her. If all she said was “I don’t like porn” no one would care; I’m sure half of us arguing against her don’t personally like it either. I don’t like tomatoes, but I’m not going to start insisting that tomatoes are immoral and that their consumers are evil.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1197 "2024-02-21T13:53:05Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> we’re not jumping the Snake River Canyon to think sex-cam teacher might see a sex-cam business opportunity with a student.

I think that is quite a leap. Any actual evidence of it in a specific case would of course be another matter – just as any actual evidence of sexual predation against a student would be by someone who has sex outside the classroom in other fashions.

Once upon a time visibly pregnant women couldn’t teach, because their pregnancies were obvious evidence that they’d been having sex. Once upon a time openly gay people couldn’t teach, because it was assumed their very presence would amount to grooming students. But the fact that adults had/have sex with adults, even when that fact was/is publicly known, meant and means nothing about whether they’ll try to involve students in such activity.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1198 "2024-02-21T13:55:43Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> But that sounds like he deserves his own pit thread, not this generic “what were you thinking” thread.

Eh, if we’ve allowed the “generic” thread to be taken over by one (and it doesn’t look like anyone really wants to let go of it), might as well let it be taken over by another.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1199 "2024-02-21T13:56:22Z")

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Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1200 "2024-02-21T14:11:56Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> This was more like a post-fire forensic analysis

I for one knew that something was missing from the thread. There was a gap, a missing piece, an _absence d’esprit_ if you will. Turns out it was just missing your forensic analysis, and I assure you we’re _terribly_ grateful you provided it.

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