# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/161 "2023-11-10T20:44:42Z")

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Everyone please open their hymnal now to page 27 and join me in a heartfelt rendition of that perennial favorite:

_So Long MF, We Hardly Knew Ye!_

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/162 "2023-11-13T16:21:04Z")

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This is meant to be a very gentle pitting, I guess more of an admonishment, but in the “FBI Raids Mar-a-largo” thread the discussion has moved to what the kids would do to stay relevant if Daddy Trump dies. This is added:

> [@FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (August 8, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022/969329/7614):
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> I predict the news: Eric will get picked up by Social Services wandering around in a Wallmart parking lot, trying to work out how to exit. Don Jr will get arrested on drug charges. Ivanka will have a “stolen” sex tape revealed.

This sex tape part feels icky to me. I dislike these people as much as anyone, but c’mon. At least give her the dignity of getting busted for shoplifting.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/163 "2023-11-13T16:30:50Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> This is meant to be a very gentle pitting

Please allow me to ratchet it up.

@scudsucker, that was fucking disgusting. Are you so intellectually bereft that you can’t come up with a way to insult a woman without objectifying her?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/164 "2023-11-13T16:54:38Z")

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I probably should have come down harder on it. Thank you for putting it more clearly and in BBQ-ready language.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/165 "2023-11-13T17:08:28Z")

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Yeah the “Ivanka is a porn star” and “incest hur hur” comments say a lot more about the people posting them than it does the Trumps.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/166 "2023-11-13T17:26:17Z")

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All the Trump trial threads are annoying even without the gratuitous sex and misogyny. Look, we’ve heard all the hilarious riffs on Trump and his family several times over. Yes, he lies. Yes, he doesn’t pay his bills. Most of us are tired of seeing a bunch of new posts and thinking maybe something happened in the trial, but no, it’s the same half-dozen posters with their endless pontification and attempts at humor.

So please, think before you post. Is there some new development? Great, post it. Some new insight that hasn’t been discussed a dozen times over the last 6 years? Please share. Otherwise, type out your response, pat yourself on the back for your wit, then hit Close/Discard.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/167 "2023-11-13T20:18:43Z")

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> Is there some new development? Great, post it.

But what if there’s a thirty-post litany of food/animal/poop puns that’s been going on for days?

Those are the threads that lure me in, hoping for new news.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/168 "2023-11-13T20:31:10Z")

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I don’t mind if someone comes up with something actually witty, and occasionally I’ll make a snarky comment myself. But if your joke is just that:  
-He’s orange!  
-He won’t like prison!  
-She’s a woman and therefore has female body parts!  
-She’s a woman and therefore I’m thinking about sex!  
-He doesn’t tell the truth!

Maybe skip the joke.

And hey, can I rant about something else? I know other people like it, because obviously they do it, but if I never see another post consisting of, “I asked ChatGPT to answer this question, and here’s what it said,” it’ll be too soon. If I give a half a shit what ChatGPT says, I’ll ask ChatGPT myself.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/169 "2023-11-13T20:32:21Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> you can’t come up with a way to insult a woman without objectifying her

I could indeed, but following the Hilton and Kardashian examples appears to be the way that not particularly celebrity-worthy ladies remain celebrities, particularly in the media obsessed US.

I’ve not watched either sex tape, and I would not watch a third.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/170 "2023-11-13T20:36:14Z")

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You’re being gross, dude.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/171 "2023-11-13T20:37:06Z")

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Then I deserve this pitting. C’est la vie.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/172 "2023-11-13T21:37:39Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> if I never see another post consisting of, “I asked ChatGPT to answer this question, and here’s what it said,” it’ll be too soon. If I give a half a shit what ChatGPT says, I’ll ask ChatGPT myself.

👍 👍 👍

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/173 "2023-11-13T22:03:14Z")

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Well I quite enjoyed the Jabberwock sock poem, but generally I agree.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/174 "2023-11-13T22:09:23Z")

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I see a distinct difference between having GPT generate a part of a post for you (parody song, image, sonnet) and the whole point of the post being how correctly/amazingly badly it answers a question.

The first can be fun, the second, not so much unless the thread is ABOUT how AI works/fails.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/175 "2023-11-13T22:48:13Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> > if I never see another post consisting of, “I asked ChatGPT to answer this question, and here’s what it said,” it’ll be too soon. If I give a half a shit what ChatGPT says, I’ll ask ChatGPT myself.
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> 👍 👍 👍

Thirded

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I see a distinct difference between having GPT generate a part of a post for you (parody song, image, sonnet) and the whole point of the post being how correctly/amazingly badly it answers a question.

The reason I read a parody, for example, is to revel in the cleverness of the writing, the twist between the original and whatever current even it is now about. And I have discovered something interesting about myself – if a machine made it, I lose all interest in any cleverness that might be in it. Because it’s not cleverness, it’s just happenstance and luck and programming. I don’t want to read a dozen stanzas of that, or even one.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/176 "2023-11-13T22:53:41Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The reason I read a parody, for example, is to revel in the cleverness of the writing, the twist between the original and whatever current even it is now about. And I have discovered something interesting about myself – if a machine made it, I lose all interest in any cleverness that might be in it. Because it’s not cleverness, it’s just happenstance and luck and programming. I don’t want to read a dozen stanzas of that, or even one.

Yeah–I’m not sure why, but I have the same reaction. Not today, Skynet.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/177 "2023-11-13T22:58:59Z")

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ISTM artificial intelligence is to real intelligence as artificial humor is to real humor. IOW a pale and goofed-up ersatz imitation.

Maybe some day, but not to-day.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/178 "2023-11-13T23:05:27Z")

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It’s the intellectual equivalent of empty calories.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/179 "2023-11-13T23:20:30Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> if a machine made it, I lose all interest in any cleverness that might be in it.

Yeah, the Jabberwocky parody felt like AI to me so my eyes just slid over it… later, as others were praising it, I thought “Well, if it was the result of a poster’s hard work, I’d go back and read it…”

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/180 "2023-11-13T23:29:41Z")

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It wasn’t a good Jabberwock parody.

It’s on topic, in English, it rhymes. That’s impressive. But it’s not anywhere near Lewis Carroll.

I half wrote and deleted a tedious post in the thread about why not but: metre, scansion, rhyme scheme, vocab are all badly wrong for Jabberwock.

Although weirdly, I’d never say this if a poster had written it.

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