# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1861 "2024-03-31T20:12:46Z")

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**Coldbrew50** has been on my radar for a little bit now. They are definitely… Let’s call it “rough around the edges.” As a poster. I’ve never caught them straight out trolling, I don’t think it would surprised me though if it were to start.

The whole Randall Monroe/Scott Adams thing…

On it’s face is I think it’s plausible. If they had came back and said “oops sorry! I was confusing the Dilbert guy with the xkcd guy.” That would be 100% believable. Like others I too was a big dilbert fan back in the day, and was horribly disappointed when I found out who Scott Adams really is.

But I have never seen not once anything I would call misogynistic in XKCD And the fact that they used the name XKCD specifically says to me it most likely was not an accident.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1862 "2024-03-31T20:37:40Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> XKCD is populated by female characters who are often portrayed as professionals and are usually the ones making astute observations and rebuttals. XKCD is pretty much the direct opposite of misogyny

Exactly.

And they interact with the male characters as equals; and in the occasional strips in which somebody tries to treat them differently, the woman always wins out.

> [@Jihi](#):
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> And the fact that they used the name XKCD specifically says to me it most likely was not an accident.

That’s a point. I can see confusing Monroe with Adams, if all you really know about either of them is that they write comic strips; but confusing XKCD with Dilbert seems to me to be pretty hard to do. At least, if you’ve ever actually seen both of them. I suppose maybe if all you were thinking was ‘comic strips involving techies’?

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1863 "2024-03-31T20:44:55Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I suppose maybe if all you were thinking was ‘comic strips involving techies’?

I mean, yeah that’s basically what I was thinking. XKCD and Dilbert are completely different in humor and art style. You would never confuse the two just casually looking at them. This of course is due to one being an independent webcomic and the other a mainstream newspaper comic.

But if you were just a casual follower of politics, or not particularly interested in the art of the comic strip, I could see thinking “nerdy tech or business related comic strip” where the Creator outted themselves as a MAGA. In that instance I could see confusing Scott Adams and Randall Monroe. Of course if I were to make that mistake, which I’m sure I have in the past, I would make a follow-up post clarifying that I confused two different relatively famous people who happened to be in the same field.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1864 "2024-03-31T20:56:04Z")

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Sorry for the direct follow-up but it just occurred to me that I actually have done this within the last week.

I forget the exact context but I was trying to make a comment about something President Carter did and I accidentally attributed it to president Ford. Another doper was kind enough to me to point out the mistake. My immediate follow up was to was to say “oh you’re right, sorry must have had a brain fart there apologies for the mistake,” IMO that’s the correct way to handle this type of situation. Not to disappear for a day and pretend like it didn’t happen.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1865 "2024-03-31T21:01:00Z")

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I just had one of those this week too, I can’t quite remember where it was though. I mentioned it was a PEBKAC. Which means I can find it:

> [@How do you feel about President Harris?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-do-you-feel-about-president-harris/999577/20):
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> Crap, typo. PEBKAC. (problem exists between keyboard and chair)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1866 "2024-03-31T21:41:57Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Not to disappear for a day and pretend like it didn’t happen.

It is possible for a poster to disappear for a day or more for entirely unrelated reasons.

However, if/when this one comes back, mentioning this issue would be a really good idea. They were @'d at some point, I presume.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1867 "2024-03-31T21:51:49Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> It is possible for a poster to disappear for a day or more for entirely unrelated reasons.

On reflection you are correct about this. As a long time lurker I understand wanting to read and not be particularly interested in posting for long periods. A single day maybe too short time period to expect a reply.

I also found the post I had previously referenced. I was trying to make a reference to Carter pardoning Vietnam draft dodgers and accidentally attributed to ford. The doper kind enough to point out the error was **Mr. Greenjeans**.

> [@How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former President Trump pissed you off today?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-former-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today/942178/6185):
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> Gah. I knew that. Apologies, not sure why I said Ford there.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1868 "2024-03-31T22:00:49Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> > [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > It is possible for a poster to disappear for a day or more for entirely unrelated reasons.
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> On reflection you are correct about this. As a long time lurker I understand wanting to read and not be particularly interested in posting for long periods.

Sometimes, believe it or not, a poster might not even _read_ the board for a day, or for multiple days.

Once in a while it’s even been me.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1869 "2024-04-01T00:13:56Z")

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I mean, I guess it’s conceivable that Munroe is misogynistic, and has just done a really good job of hiding it. And you could probably pick out one or two strips out of his thousands which, if you squint at them just right, look misogynistic. It’s conceivable that someone might have only looked at one of those strips, and been in a bad mood and inclined to judge it harshly.

And there are of course many other criticisms you could level at Munroe. Especially if you’re not a member of his (relatively narrow) target audience.

But in what universe does it make any sense whatsoever to call him illiterate?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1870 "2024-04-01T06:57:08Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And you could probably pick out one or two strips out of his thousands which, if you squint at them just right, look misogynistic. It’s conceivable that someone might have only looked at one of those strips, and been in a bad mood and inclined to judge it harshly.

Some of his earliest strips, which based on their artwork were made while he was still in high school, have a tendency towards “yo mama” jokes. I can possibly conceive of someone going to the XKCD archives, starting reading them from the beginning, and giving up after the first 100 or so with a bad impression of his work.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1871 "2024-04-01T07:01:40Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> in the occasional strips in which somebody tries to treat them differently, the woman always wins out.

And how!

> **[Pickup Artist](https://xkcd.com/1027/)**
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> Son, don't try to play 'make you feel bad' with the Michael Jordan of making you feel bad.

Also, it would be threadshitting, but I keep _wanting_ to post that comic in that idiotic “when is it OK for a strange man to ~~ask for a woman’s phone number~~ harass a woman?” thread. “_Just talk to them like a fucking human being_.” indeed.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1872 "2024-04-01T07:08:47Z")

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I had almost that exact conversation with my brother once. I used to talk to him on the phone all the time, before his criminal behavior turned really dangerous and I cut ties with him. But he bragged about how he could get any woman he wanted by belittling them. I told him that it’s better just to talk to women as yourself, treat them with respect, if they don’t like you when you’re being normal there is no future with them. He didn’t care, he just wanted to get something from them before moving onto the next one,

I said that sounded lonely and sad for both him and the women he discarded, but he said he didn’t care. Just another of his many mistakes.

i can’t even laugh at that comic because it makes me sad. ☹

Luckily there’s plenty on XKCD that cracks me the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1873 "2024-04-01T07:51:00Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> “when is it OK for a strange man to ~~ask for a woman’s phone number~~ harass a woman?

Not providing the phone number can, [on occasion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Wu_Shuoyan), be quite dangerous. (The link is to the Wiki article about the murder of Wu Shuoyan.)

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1874 "2024-04-01T08:14:31Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Not providing the phone number can, [on occasion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Wu_Shuoyan), be quite dangerous.

That was not a man asking for a woman’s phone number for a date. That was a bunch of religious nutjobs. We know religious nutjobs are dangerous, especially in groups. That Wu was a woman doesn’t really signify, they would likely have done the same to a man.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1875 "2024-04-01T09:40:55Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> They were @'d at some point, I presume.

I don’t think so.  
This occured to me to… i was intending to go into that thread and ask if he  
was confusing Monroe with Adams, but there’s a mod instruction to not reply.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1876 "2024-04-01T14:12:20Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> And how!

That is indeed a strip I was thinking of.

> [@pjd](#):
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> > [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > They were @'d at some point, I presume.
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> I don’t think so.  
> This occured to me to… i was intending to go into that thread and ask if he  
> was confusing Monroe with Adams, but there’s a mod instruction to not reply.

Not here, I presume.

@ColdBrew50, have you seen this discussion?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1877 "2024-04-01T14:19:15Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Sometimes, believe it or not, a poster might not even _read_ the board for a day, or for multiple days.

Pfft, like there are more important things. Pull the other one…

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1878 "2024-04-01T15:00:07Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > [@MrDibble](#):
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> > And how!
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> That is indeed a strip I was thinking of.
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> > [@pjd](#):
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> > > [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> > > They were @'d at some point, I presume.
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> > I don’t think so.  
> > This occured to me to… i was intending to go into that thread and ask if he  
> > was confusing Monroe with Adams, but there’s a mod instruction to not reply.
> 
> Not here, I presume.
> 
> @ColdBrew50, have you seen this discussion?

**ColdBrew50** ’s bad post was cited directly and he was @-ed by @scudsucker in their post 1836 that started this whole 40-something post subchapter here on **ColdBrew50** ’s behavior.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1879 "2024-04-01T17:22:30Z")

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Ah.

Well. they’ve been @'d twice then. – and they have been on the boards, yesterday and today. And they do post in the Pit.

So much for that theory. At any rate, unless they’re too embarrassed to admit to having crossed up the names; which is just silly, if so.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1880 "2024-04-01T17:34:44Z")

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Well, they’ll have good (if also trollish) company, a lot of the targets for dedicated Pit-threads have been called out specifically for ghosting their fellow posters when called out on failed assertations of “fact”.

It’s one of the things that chaps my hide. I even did an ATMB thread on it in part.

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