# What were you THINKING? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1941 "2024-04-02T17:53:38Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > One of the most stress-inducing things for the human mind is the loss of choice. many studie have shows that high-powered always-on 24-7 execs have less stress than their flunkies or janitors. Because of their level of control, even if unused. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > The “caught in the middle” low end supervisory jobs are a different, but usually more excruciating form of Hell than the grunt jobs when / where things are bad. Lots of responsibility for results with near-zero authority to affect circumstances. I think there’s a lot of truth to both these statements, though obviously much depends on the specific circumstances, like the personalities of the managers above and below you in the pecking order and how well things are going in general. If an organization is in crisis, then obviously management at all levels is going to be a lot more stressed than non-management individual contributors. But that second statement reflects a well-established fact in organizational management: middle management tends to have the worst imbalance of high responsibility and low authority. I’ve no doubt that American businesses have sent countless middle managers to their deaths from hypertension and heart attacks. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1942 "2024-04-02T18:03:32Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Great Debates: Low Responsibility and low pay vs High Stress and High compensation, Now in the Pit Motherfuckers! > > 😆 A worthy topic for its own thread you sorry sack of shit! Get to work writing my OP! 😉 I’m reminded of a comic series from the 1980s / 1990s called “Two-Fisted Management” about a ridiculously uber-macho CEO who sorta resembles 2010-2015 trump. I loved that strip. The various collected works books are available on Amazon, etc. The author of that strip was a guy named “Mark Marek”. Here in more recent years there’s a Mark Marek who’s infamous for running a shock video website with no boundaries whatsoever. He’s had a bunch of legal trouble connected to that. I do not know (can’t be arsed to check) whether they’re the same person or not. Just based on the passage of time, I kinda suspect not. But I thought it worthwhile to warn that searching for one topic you might find some of the other. No endorsement of the latter dude is expressed or implied. The former comics were great. Maybe it’s two guys named Mark, maybe it’s like early Dilberts and latter-day Scott Adams. I just don’t know. And with that Dilbert / Adams reference I’ve brought us back full-circle to the ritual abuse being heaped on **ColdBrew50**. Pretty snazzy, huh? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1943 "2024-04-02T18:10:01Z")
That’s a better point. Maybe I should start queuing up posts on how I got from point A to point B just fine in a Waymo. Over and over again. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1944 "2024-04-02T18:13:08Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Not every woman who veils has the same motivations and thoughts, of course. But here are a couple of concepts that women who veil may often have I will defend vehemently any woman’s right to freely choose to wear a chador; just as much as her right to go down the street in four-inch heels with half her ass hanging out. I don’t want to do either of those things. But the important thing is, does the individual woman have the choice? (And if nearly everybody she knows tells her she has to wear those heels – while she may have the choice theoretically, I don’t think that counts.) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1945 "2024-04-02T18:29:34Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > That’s a better point. Maybe I should start queuing up posts on how I got from point A to point B just fine in a Waymo. Over and over again. If your posts highlight the things that are working well and not working well, I’ll gladly read them. If you’re just trolling because you hate Tesla, I’ll probably skip them. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1946 "2024-04-02T18:42:23Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > how I got from point A to point B just fine in a Waymo If you can say that your trips in Waymo are more problem free than the Tesla guys are describing, that’s interesting. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1947 "2024-04-02T18:42:25Z")
This. I’m genuinely curious about every company’s successes and shortfalls. I agree w the crack about Tesla’s unpaid testers. But there’s also a vast gulf between Tesla’s collective experience all across our continent and somebody else’s extensive experience in Greater Phoenix or San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1948 "2024-04-02T18:59:57Z")
You’re not just an idiot, you’re a pretentious idiot. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1949 "2024-04-02T19:12:08Z")
Nah, no hate, but I do find Tesla overhyped. There’s not much to say about the Waymo rides really, but maybe I’ll put something together in a few days. Too sick right now. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1950 "2024-04-02T19:52:58Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > except for occasional hats and bits of hair used mostly to identify recurring characters. The one thing CB seems to have missed is that Beret Guy is, well… ---
**Author:** ![ColdBrew50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@ColdBrew50](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdBrew50)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1951 "2024-04-02T19:59:19Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The one thing CB seems to have missed is that Beret Guy is, well… An illiterate rube as well as a dick? Yes, that was my suspicion as well. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1952 "2024-04-02T20:03:42Z")
Oh this is so not going to go well (for ColdBrew). 🍿 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1953 "2024-04-02T20:03:45Z")
> [@ColdBrew50](#): > > An illiterate rube as well as a dick? > > Yes, that was my suspicion as well. Look at _you_, proving you don’t belong in this thread. The troll thread, however… ---
**Author:** ![ColdBrew50](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@ColdBrew50](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdBrew50)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1954 "2024-04-02T20:10:39Z")
Yeah, I await your next syllable with great eagerness. Truly, you bring content to the content-free, those poor people who have none. Well done. Imbecile. How troll-like of you. Randall Munroe is a bloated waterhead with no concept of human relations, provides no evidence of ever having read anything of importance, his skill as a mere technician notwithstanding, and his fanbase resembles nothing more than a convention of Star Wars fanboys or Trekkies, nor does it seem they aspire to anything else. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1955 "2024-04-02T20:13:28Z")
> [@ColdBrew50](#): > > How troll-like of you. Wait, wait, I know this one… “No, U!” Am I doing it right? It’s been so long since we’ve had a proper nonnie round the place… ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1956 "2024-04-02T20:20:30Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > That’s why transit in Indonesia sometimes has all-women cars, so they can avoid it India too. I was impressed. Usually the first one or two train wagons behind the engine. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1957 "2024-04-02T20:22:26Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > Oh this is so not going to go well (for ColdBrew). Do you think they’re ever going to get it? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1958 "2024-04-02T20:30:04Z")
I’m not sure. Most posters have found that immediately owning up to their actions once pitted is the most successful option (I’m thinking of an old @bobot pitting), or that after digging the hole deeper, they stop, hopefully think, and stop _digging_. For a moment, it looked like ColdBrew was going to go the second route, but apparently, after thinking about it, felt the hole should be deeper, because they didn’t want to be a quitter. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMzQ0ZzAyMjJ0dWpoaGEzMTFjNGo1dXJuaGs4cDJwNjJyOWlnZXpsYSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/Rh4vxHtcmVyHUyugXP/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1959 "2024-04-02T20:31:58Z")
> [@ColdBrew50](#): > > Randall Munroe is a bloated waterhead with no concept of human relations, provides no evidence of ever having read anything of importance, his skill as a mere technician notwithstanding, and his fanbase resembles nothing more than a convention of Star Wars fanboys or Trekkies, nor does it seem they aspire to anything else. Then stop paying attention to him instead of obsessing over him. You appear to know enough about him that it seems reasonable to assume you’ve done quite a bit of research on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1960 "2024-04-02T20:34:51Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > Maybe I should start queuing up posts on how I got from point A to point B just fine in a Waymo. Over and over again Please do. All I get to see in the media are stories about Waymos blocking firetrucks or whatever. Of course Alphabet claims they do many uneventful rides, but so do the Tesla guys in that thread, so it’s hard to know what to believe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532.md?page=99)