# What were you THINKING?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 13, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532 "2023-10-13T19:36:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1961 "2024-04-02T20:39:44Z")

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I’m also curious about your real-life experience with waymo.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1962 "2024-04-02T20:40:28Z")

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Can the Tesla and Waymo conversation please return to the Self-Driving thread?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1963 "2024-04-02T20:47:41Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Do you think they’re ever going to get it?

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I’m not sure. Most posters have found that immediately owning up to their actions once pitted is the most successful option (I’m thinking of an old @bobot pitting), or that after digging the hole deeper, they stop, hopefully think, and stop _digging_.
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> For a moment, it looked like ColdBrew was going to go the second route, but apparently, after thinking about it, felt the hole should be deeper,

I meant the specific point about Beret Guy.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1964 "2024-04-02T20:49:45Z")

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I don’t think they CARE, they’re busy trying to win on the internet! Your facts don’t matter as far as they’re concerned.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1965 "2024-04-02T20:58:07Z")

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I’m wondering if the conversation about / between **ColdBrew50** _et al_ might benefit from a more private room, not right up here next to the stage obstructing everyone’s view of the dancers.

Once a fight picks up some momentum IMO it goes out of scope here.

YMMV.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1966 "2024-04-02T20:59:34Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> obstructing everyone’s view of the dancers.

I was promised more dancers.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1967 "2024-04-02T21:07:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> There’s a bit more to the story, but they greatly prefer a sore back and knees to the 24/7 mind-stress of an office job.

I was working at an ad agency where everyone was putting in a week of late nights to meet a deadline. We were taking a break for pizza, and I asked “What’s your dream job?”

The VP said that during high school he stocked shelves at a grocery store. “During crazy times like this, I picture myself at 2 am with headphones on, lining up boxes of cereal. No bosses, no customers, no stress…”

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(Hey, it’s a tangent, but it’s not Tesla or Waymo or Randall…)

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1968 "2024-04-02T23:07:49Z")

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Was it this one?

[![](https://openlearnlive-s3bucket.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/8d/2f/8d2faff7777765c51754f5fbb6437bca05362494?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22evansimage800.jpg%22&response-content-type=image%2Fjpeg&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIA4GIOSMQ5JGMSLFXY%2F20240402%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20240402T230509Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=3591&X-Amz-Signature=5249cb7c5856bc9a064a2203742998e35f33d292cf6ea39dbdab06ab0c9278ab) ](https://openlearnlive-s3bucket.s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/8d/2f/8d2faff7777765c51754f5fbb6437bca05362494?response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22evansimage800.jpg%22&response-content-type=image%2Fjpeg&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIA4GIOSMQ5JGMSLFXY%2F20240402%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20240402T230509Z&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Expires=3591&X-Amz-Signature=5249cb7c5856bc9a064a2203742998e35f33d292cf6ea39dbdab06ab0c9278ab)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1969 "2024-04-03T02:17:36Z")

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That displays a placeholder icon in Discourse and clicking it into a new tab produces an error message. Not sure why. Maybe a login is required or they don’t permit hotlinking or if it was search results their results cache has timed out.

I don’t know if anyone else can see it, but I can’t.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1970 "2024-04-03T02:40:38Z")

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I was able to see it shortly after it was posted, but now I see the same placeholder that you do.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1971 "2024-04-03T02:47:30Z")

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Same here. All I see is the placeholder.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1972 "2024-04-03T02:48:56Z")

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Looking under the sheets I think the url is the result of a search and basically says “show the result of search number 123456” And once the server’s cache throws that result set away, the response becomes some flavor of “error”

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1973 "2024-04-03T03:25:54Z")

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Huh, I can still see it.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1974 "2024-04-03T03:29:37Z")

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I can’t.

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1975 "2024-04-03T10:46:46Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> > [@CairoCarol](#):
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> > That’s why transit in Indonesia sometimes has all-women cars, so they can avoid it
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> India too. I was impressed.

while I get what you (probably) tried to convey:

no need to be impressed … b/c that is a bandaid-fix that normally indicates that there is a huge underlying problem.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1976 "2024-04-03T12:56:11Z")

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I mean, you are right. And it is a “band-aid”, it is helping to some extent but not solving the problem.

Still, India (in my limited experience) is a very misogynistic society. Granted I have only been to limited areas (Gujarat, Rajahstan, Uttar Pradesh) - I am no expert. My ex-wife complained that any question she asked to a taxi driver, the answer was directed to me, the same with tour guides etc.

So the band aid, as little as it is, is a start. A good start.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1977 "2024-04-03T13:59:19Z")

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[![](https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/12/1.png) ](https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2008/12/1.png)

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1978 "2024-04-03T14:34:02Z")

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Memory is a funny and unreliable thing, but I don’t believe this cartoon that the one I saw. It certainly expresses the exact same sentiment.

Great cite in any case; Thanks for make the effort.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1979 "2024-04-03T16:29:17Z")

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How to pack a ton of misogyny and bigotry in a few lines:

> [@Ought public libraries advance social agendas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ought-public-libraries-advance-social-agendas/999737/76):
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> > [@Ought public libraries advance social agendas?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ought-public-libraries-advance-social-agendas/999737/75):
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> > Again, so are all women and people with disabilities leftists?
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> Completely irrelevant. What we are talking about is _discriminating against certain groups in order to achieve equal outcomes_. That is what the E part of DEI is for. Obviously not all women or minority groups support this even if they think there is inequity present.

What were you thinking? (Well, at least he was not thinking that women and minorities could be raised and _slaughtered_) \*\*

Nope, it was not irrelevant, misleading info about DEI coming from right wing sources is what is guiding a lot of people, that is for sure. The question here is if it is just the misleading info coming from the extreme right or if it is the moderates (?) like Dr. Strangelove who are just giving up and are getting used to swallow what the extreme right is telling them to think about issues that in reality have less to do with right or left ideologies.

This DEI thing is a lot like the CRT boogeyman, when others made very ignorant posts about CRT, I pointed about how CRT was used by Asian, African American or Jewish researchers to publish papers using the CRT framework. they pointed at the bigotry and ethnic cleansing among _less_ diverse populations in China or Africa. Making a mockery of the point from the right that CRT was made to make whites feel bad for no reason. Some reprehensible posters did see the evidence I posted and just declared that they were exceptions… Sure… everything to justify the misleading right-wing narrative about CRT.

Similarity, DEI is not only geared to help reduce the non-imaginary systemic racism in the workplace or other institutions, but it also includes ways to deal with the discrimination of women and disabled people in the same. Trying to minimize that is really just an effort to defend a very misleading narrative from the right.

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\*\* Reference to the Dr. Strangelove movie.

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**Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-were-you-thinking/991532/1980 "2024-04-03T16:33:26Z")

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There was also a New Yorker cover….

> **[Girls Will Be Girls by Anita Kunz](https://condenaststore.com/featured/girls-will-be-girls-anita-kunz.html)**
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> Girls Will Be Girls Painting by Anita Kunz

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