What were your ancestors up to in the 1300s? Where did they end up?

All-paternal line lived between Pamplona and a hamlet nearby; they were knight-captains of that hamlet and the surrounding area. They farmed; traded horses and the product of their farms and those of other people (on commision); acted as local judges and represented the people of the area when the king or queen called for parliament; led the local troops into battle when needed (not often); their house’s upper floor doubled as the granary for the area, and the house itself was a “strong house” (not a castle, but with walls that could withstand 19th-century artillery, as fireproof as possible and with its own well inside). They were considered “lower nobility”: later bans on the nobility going into trades or commerce didn’t affect either the knight-captains themselves or their untitled relatives, as they didn’t rank high enough (phew). That area didn’t have much in the way of sharecroppers or serfs, farms were usually owned by the farmer.

Everybody else on that side of the family was from an area within 200km of that village, and “200km” is actually on the large side. We know this thanks to the “blood-tests” people needed because of Felipe V: he wanted to change parts of our legal system that only Parliament could change and about shot out of his palace when told “anybody who wants” could attend the meetings; since this wasn’t actually in writing, he said he’d only accept people who could prove all four of their grandparents were descended from people who’d attended previous Parliaments. The list was still too large for his taste, so he upped the requirement to all eight great-grandparents, but this didn’t lower the numbers at all - that Parliament was never held. Independent farmers, tradesmen, traders, sailors… more of them working in the primary sector than would be normal today, but generally my foreparents were what one could call “middle class”.

Other sides of the family were not-rich but not-poor farmers in Asturias; poor farmers in Salamanca; no idea what in Naples; rich landowners in northern Italy; and no idea in Nancy (France).

I got lucky – National Geographic funded it. Our family has a very well kept family tree with many branches, so some boffin wanted to see if trees such as ours would stand up to DNA testing.

On Mom’s side, there were probably relatives involved in bashing the northerners or being bashed by them. Much later, one of their kids would become the third of Japan’s great unifiers but, until then, they were undoubtedly training and waging war with whoever the Diamyo told them to kill. There’s a photocopy of an excruciatingly detailed chart somwhere around here and I’ve written in a couple other threads about the Toku____ myths and legends (with nods to James Clavell) and the Satsuma infamy (good and bad) so I won’t rehash them here.

Dad’s side is a lot more vague, but I would suspect the ancestral types were involved in studying and teaching The Analects and passing the baton from father to son(s) until it became necessary to leave lest they be be purged as Intellectuals by the Chairman’s new regime. To that effect, “black market papers” were obtained and my paternal grandparents ended up in Missouri. Since I was under two when he left the family, I never had the opportunity to gain any detailed information about that side.
–G!

Scottish pirates, English peasantry, Welsh peasantry, and Scottish nobility - they weren’t royal then - via Italy.