# What will be in the Trump Presidential Library?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 7, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993 "2020-11-07T17:52:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/61 "2020-11-09T00:44:08Z")

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If Trump really didn’t want his shredded papers put back together, why didn’t he incinerate them?

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/62 "2020-11-09T00:44:44Z")

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Who’s going to trust Trump with matches?

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/63 "2020-11-09T01:00:34Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Oh, damn, how could I have forgotten! Please add this exhibit to my list above. Of course Donny “two-scoops” has to be honored for that. I suggest a plastic replica of a piece of apple pie with _ **two scoops** _ of plastic replica vanilla ice cream (with a plaque reminding visitors that everyone else just got one scoop).

I was actually thinking that ice cream might make a nice dessert in the Trump Library’s cafeteria. You could get a regular one scoop serving for, say, $5; or you could “President Size” it: two scoops for $9.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/64 "2020-11-09T16:56:06Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Pay toilets.

Will they be _gold_ pay toilets?

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**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/65 "2020-11-09T17:03:23Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> > [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> > Pay toilets.
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> Will they be _gold_ pay toilets?

No, but they will have “Property of the White House” stamped on them.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/66 "2021-01-24T10:00:11Z")

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Looks like the library may not be happening.

> **[Will There Be a Trump Presidential Library? Don’t Count On It.](https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/22/trump-presidential-library-plans-461383)**
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> If you understand how presidential libraries are created, it’s hard to see how Trump ever gets it done.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/67 "2021-01-24T15:05:54Z")

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A roll of paper towels to commemorate his help to Puerto Rico. 😃

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/68 "2021-01-24T15:23:17Z")

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Nothing but hype, no details what you’ll see, coupled with very expensive entry fees.  
Inside it’s just a giant, hideous, portrait of the Trump family!

You have to pay double for the ‘exit fee’!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/69 "2021-01-24T17:17:59Z")

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Yes, pretty much what I was thinking.

First, there will be the presidential library grifting, where multiple folks collect money for the “library” that ends up going into their own pockets (see Bannon and funding for “the wall”).

Next will be presidential library skimming, where money is collected that will actually go to a library, but only 5%, with the rest of the proceeds going to “administration”, and “branding fee” (AKA paying Trump to put his name on it)

Finally, the actual library, which will be as you described. A simplistic shrine with entry fees to continue to fleece the rubes.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/70 "2021-01-24T20:35:35Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Remember that Mar-a-Lago is a private club, for which the initiation fee is supposedly $200,000, with $14,000 annual dues. I really don’t see him giving up this revenue source anytime soon. (On the other hand, once he’s no longer in office, why would anyone want to curry favor with him?)

Now you mention that…  
[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/24/business/mar-a-lago-donald-trump-guests/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/24/business/mar-a-lago-donald-trump-guests/index.html)

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Who’s going to trust Trump with matches?

Matches are too complicated anyway (and his hands too small)

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/71 "2021-01-25T05:15:35Z")

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In the Hamberder Room there’s a 60’ X 30’ projection screen showing a looped montage of him playing tennis with the see-through shorts; picking up a golf ball, looking around, then chucking it out of the rough; signing an executive order then holding up the menu; tweeting on a gold toilet; spasmodic handicap tauntings; at his Presidential desk recieving a McDonalds delivery from a ten-man SS detail; close-up of his face with a smiling, full mouth, nod, and a wink.  
In the middle of the H.R., on a small, column-shaped holder, sits the moldering Onion of Elizabeth, with a small gold plack\* underneath, quoting her plight - verbatim - about getting maced.

\*remember dat?

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/72 "2021-01-25T07:03:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Finally, the actual library, which will be as you described. A simplistic shrine with entry fees to continue to fleece the rubes.

You forget the gift shoppe with a mexican wall of The Apprentice box sets, the last of the Trump steaks [‘walking out the door’ does not do justice to the biological processes involved with these vintage premium meats], golf wear for the whiter, huskier gentleman and plaques with inspirational sayings gleaned from the greatest twittering in English or any language [available in gold, golder or Trumpulence finish].

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/73 "2021-01-25T07:12:03Z")

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That wall displaying all his achievements will include all the achievements of prior presidents that Trump claims as his own.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/74 "2021-01-25T08:26:37Z")

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From the Politico story linked to above:

> To say the least, Trump has shown little ability to operate a legitimate nonprofit foundation, never mind build an endowment. He’ll have considerable difficulty doing so in his home state of New York. Under a [2019 court order](https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/ag-james-secures-court-order-against-donald-j-trump-trump-children-and-trump), after “admitting to personally misusing funds at the Trump Foundation,” Trump agreed to a settlement that—should he succeed in persuading anyone to give him the money at all—puts an extremely short leash on any nonprofit he might launch in that state.
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> If he does build a library, it’s likely Trump would want the legitimacy and imprimatur of the federal government, as a “seal of approval” for his story, told his way. He might even like to have the National Archives host his exhibits about how “great” he made America (again), and, perhaps, how great was the “theft” of his second term. But to do any of that, the law will require him not only to spend the money on the grounds and building, but to raise hundreds of millions of additional dollars—and give it, almost unthinkably, _to the government_ .

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/75 "2021-01-27T02:43:50Z")

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There may or may not be a physical library, but I do want to point out that the online portion of it, maintained by the National Archives, is now in place. It appears to contain the documents he shredded.

> [Home | Donald J. Trump Presidential Library](https://www.trumplibrary.gov/)

But personally I prefer this independent library website instead, as it does not pull any punches.

> **[Donald J. Trump Presidential Library](https://djtrumplibrary.com/)**
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> Presidential Library for the 45th President of the United States

(Yes, it is officially satire. But it seems to push actual facts.)

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/76 "2021-01-27T09:06:09Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But personally I prefer this independent library website instead, as it does not pull any punches.
> 
> [https://djtrumplibrary.com/](https://djtrumplibrary.com/)
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> (Yes, it is officially satire. But it seems to push actual facts.)

Hey! I contributed to that site!

> [@](#):
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 13:20:27 -0800  
> From: [xxxxxxxx@gmail.com](mailto:xxxxxxxx@gmail.com)  
> To: [admin@djtrumplibrary.com](mailto:admin@djtrumplibrary.com)  
> Subject: Time-Line exhibit fact check . . .  
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=“UTF-8”
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> Great web site. Can’t wait to visit in person.
> 
> I think your paragraph “Storming of the Capitol” in the Timeline exhibit is a bit mis-worded:
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> " . . . resulting in the first armed breach of the building since 1814, over two decades."
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> I’m guessing you meant “over two centuries” there.
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> -- X. X.  
> =========================
> 
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:30:06 -0500 (EST)  
> From: Admin Staff \<admin@djtrumplibrary.com\>  
> To: xxxxxxxx \<xxxxxxxx@gmail.com\>  
> Subject: Re: Time-Line exhibit fact check . . .
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> Oy. Thanks, fixed!
> 
> -  
> Best,  
> Admin Staff at [DJTrumpLibrary.com](http://DJTrumpLibrary.com)  
> [https://djtrumplibrary.com](https://djtrumplibrary.com)

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But personally I prefer this independent library website instead, as it does not pull any punches.
> 
> ### [Donald J. Trump Presidential Library](https://djtrumplibrary.com/)
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> Presidential Library for the 45th President of the United States
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> (Yes, it is officially satire. But it seems to push actual facts.)

I’ve seen that satire site before, and it is extremely well done. Very much worth a visit!

I think the trump library should have a Hall of Tweet Flip-Flops. Maybe commission this guy to help:

> **[Someone Made Actual Flip-Flops With Trump's Tweets on Them, and They're Pure...](https://www.popsugar.com/news/donald-trump-presidential-flip-flops-44024128)**
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> POPSUGAR is a global lifestyle media brand with content encompassing entertainment, style, beauty, wellness, family, lifestyle, and identity. POPSUGAR's team of editors, writers, producers, and content creators curate the buzziest content, trends,...

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/78 "2021-01-27T18:15:35Z")

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The betting now is that Trump will leave his papers, such as they are, at the national archives and set up a museum to highlight his “accomplishments”. I believe there is a used museum in Petersburg, KY, that isn’t doing too well. Maybe he could take it over.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-the-trump-presidential-library/924993/79 "2021-01-27T19:24:13Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Hey! I contributed to that site!

I must congratulate you, very well done!

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