# What will be in Trump’s “Large, Detailed, but Irrefutable REPORT?”

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663 "2023-08-16T17:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/141 "2023-08-18T18:23:25Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The technique is classic Trump.

Agreed.

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> It’s a stupid tactic and it never works, but Trump keeps doing it.

I think it does work. But I admit to lack of evidence AKA you may be correct!

My evidence-free thinking is that Trump needed to put out the idea that, when it comes to the indictments, there can be honest disagreements on the facts. But Trump wouldn’t want to get into too much detail there since the more carefully one looks at the evidence, the worse he looks.

In a few weeks, all that will be recalled, by the voters he needs to appeal to, is that Trump got indicted, but there are two sides to the story, and maybe Biden’s not pristine either. So the classic Trump technique was, although not any kind of chess, clever enough to keep him in the game.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/142 "2023-08-18T18:29:35Z")

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Why won’t Jack Smith let Trump present his reported evidence in court? What is he hiding? We have many experts willing to testify. And it will only take about four months to get them into court and the whole list of evidence out.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/143 "2023-08-18T18:56:34Z")

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And also…his lawyers are arguing they need 3 years to prepare. But but… I thought Trump could put it all together in a week?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/144 "2023-08-18T18:57:52Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> In a few weeks, all that will be recalled, by the voters he needs to appeal to, is that Trump got indicted, but there are two sides to the story, and maybe Biden’s not pristine either. So the classic Trump technique was, although not any kind of chess, clever enough to keep him in the game.

Chess - There is

- Draw (nobody can win)
- Stalemate (you can’t make a legal move, but are not in check)
- Check (You have to do something)
- And then of course Check Mate.

Trump is certainly in Check, with Check Mate only a pawns move away. What pawn will it be, hmmm.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/145 "2023-08-18T18:59:36Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> And also…his lawyers are arguing they need 3 years to prepare. But but… I thought Trump could put it all together in a week?

I wouldn’t even need to sit down in the jury room.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/146 "2023-08-18T19:28:38Z")

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I think how it works, is that Trump had irrefutable proof already on election night. After all, he declared confidently that he had won the election, at a point where the vote counts were saying the opposite.

But he vowed that night not to present any of that proof until 21st August 2023.

And now his lawyers have told him that’s rushing things – it’s not even 3 years since the election yet. He should do it on the same day as _the storm_.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/147 "2023-08-21T09:40:13Z")

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Today’s the day.  
The excitement is palpable.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/148 "2023-08-21T10:41:03Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Chess - There is
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> - Draw (nobody can win)
> - Stalemate (you can’t make a legal move, but are not in check)
> - Check (You have to do something)
> - And then of course Check Mate.
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> Trump is certainly in Check, with Check Mate only a pawns move away. What pawn will it be, hmmm.

You forgot [Pigeon Chess](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pigeon_chess).

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/149 "2023-08-21T12:29:50Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> The excitement is palpable

The excrement is proximate.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/150 "2023-08-21T13:37:54Z")

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I’ve been waiting three years to find out how Biden and the demoncrats did it, that they did it so masterfuly and so skillfully that it has taken Trump, tha smartest man alive, all this time to figure it out! And it’s unbeleivable that those demoncrats never waivered and no one involved ever cracked all this time. Amazing! But, today’s the day where the great wrong will be righted for all to see! You’ll see - beleive me!

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/151 "2023-08-21T15:42:19Z")

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Trump is in _Zugzwang_.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/152 "2023-08-21T16:13:59Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> He counts on others that are dumber than he is.

_No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public._  
–H.L. Mencken

> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> there are two sides to the story, and maybe Biden’s not pristine either

Until he foments a riot on the day they’re counting the Electoral College votes, then continues the beat the _lies, all lies_ drum for 3+ years I’ll take Biden’s unpristiness over Trump’s, or anyone in his party for that matter.

> [@enipla](#):
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> Yeah, his report will be released in court.

It’s a court in Canada, You don’t know it.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/153 "2023-08-21T16:47:58Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Trump is in _Zugzwang_.

Trump is [numberwang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmBCh76_qWE).

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/154 "2023-08-21T17:44:07Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s a court in Canada, You don’t know it.

🤣

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/155 "2023-08-21T18:27:42Z")

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I suspected mass resignation threats among his throngs of lawyers were the cause of his retraction. The vision of having to hire another army who have wised up to his “pay you later” grift was too daunting even for Mr. Oranganus.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/156 "2023-08-21T18:34:27Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s a court in Canada, You don’t know it.

Canada seems to have many companies named “four seasons landscaping”. And quite a few food courts. I’m sure each eagerly awaits the forthcoming media scrum and release of the REPORT.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/157 "2023-08-21T18:48:10Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> there are two sides to the story, and maybe Biden’s not pristine either.

Biden has a spot on his tie.  
Trump is covered head to toe in mud, sewage and rotten meat.

Therefore we can conclude that they are both dirty.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/158 "2023-08-21T18:49:52Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Biden has a spot on his tie.

[nitpick]  
Jim Jordan _says_ that Biden has a spot on his tie.  
[/nitpick]

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/159 "2023-08-21T18:53:29Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> > there are two sides to the story, and maybe Biden’s not pristine either.
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> Biden has a spot on his tie.  
> Trump is covered head to toe in mud, sewage and rotten meat.
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> Therefore we can conclude that they are both dirty…

There’s good mud on both sides.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-in-trump-s-large-detailed-but-irrefutable-report/988663/160 "2023-08-21T19:13:34Z")

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There are very fine neo-Nazis marching with tiki torches mud on both sides.

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