# what will be the next nutritional "wisdom" or big food fad? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 13, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701 "2019-01-13T20:19:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TRC4941](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trc4941/32/6792_2.png) [@TRC4941](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TRC4941)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/21 "2019-01-15T14:53:42Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > People have been asking me for decades how I stay so slim. II tell them if they do these three things every day for a year, they couldn’t be fat if they wanted to: > > Eat only when you are hungry > Eat whatever you want > Walk outside for at least an hour every day. I agree! ---
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/22 "2019-01-15T15:01:05Z")
Mushrooms. Specifically wild or “wild” mushrooms. Some people are getting into them for the money: a pound of morels can go for $35. Some people are getting into them for “medicinal” usage: cancer, pain, memory loss… there is at least one type of mushroom per touted to relieve the symptoms/cure you. I’m grateful that many types of wild mushroom can be grown at home because, once commercialized, harvesting stuff in the wild goes fast like back when Goldenseal was the rage and the wild stuff was almost wiped out. Ramps/wild leeks are getting over harvested as well [Ramps: How to Forage & Eat Wild Leeks](https://www.wildedible.com/blog/foraging-ramps) Personally, I like the taste (everything tastes better when cooked in butter) and the adventure of wandering the woods and finding free food. ---
**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/23 "2019-01-15T15:04:58Z")
> [@Aspidistra](#): > > If you’ve been a parent in the last couple of decades this sudden about turn is pretty big : [make sure to feed your kids peanuts before they’re six months old.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/well/eat/feed-your-kids-peanuts-early-and-often-new-guidelines-urge.html) I didn’t think this was all that recent. I seem to remember reading about this, oh at least 25 years ago in pulp media Next Big Food and Diet Fad will be an ocean/water organism based diets and being sure to expose infants to all manner of sea life while rolling them in the dirt so they get exposed to everything and develop a properly socialized immune system. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/24 "2019-01-15T15:41:09Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Currently, the prevailing diets, nutritional advice, etc. all emphasize intake of protein and the so-called healthy fats, and recommend avoiding various carbs - depending on the diet details - in return. > > Back in the 90s all fat was bad, so at the time everything was low-fat or non-fat or reduced-fat. Anyone remember SnackWell cookies? “No fat!” Well, yeah, but same overall calories - you just replaced fat with sugar. > > So what is the next big nutritional fad gonna be? Haul out yer crystal ball, Dopers! > > A decade or so ago, egg \*whites \*were O.K. but yolks would kill you. Shrimp was considered the reason for high cholesterol. (Yep, we know better on that one now.) > > These days, the “healthy” snacks marketed towards the higher-income and health conscious will likely include things like smoked salmon, pieces of aged cheese, and a wide variety of nuts or seeds. (Cite: recent Whole Foods flyer in my mail.) Such fatty decadence would have been the epitome of unhealthy several years ago. > > I have to wonder what the uber-healthy folks with disposable income to spare will snack upon, twenty or thirty years from now. Perhaps kale will be viewed the same way that rice cakes are mostly disparaged now - as the last resort of a starving dieter, but nothing considered fit for humans to eat. My prediction is that this (the low carb / high protein / healthy fats diets) will continue to be the trend. I suppose you could call it a fad, but it seems to me that since 2001 when Dr. Atkins’s book was republished that this has been the go to diet, just packaged under different names. Whether it’s South Beach, paleo, keto, or any other recent ones, they’re basically all the same diet, with maybe a little wiggle room on what falls under the category of healthy fats. They are all basically low carb / high protein and healthy fats with fiber diets. They’ve been popular almost 20 years now, so it’s hard to call them a fad. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/25 "2019-01-15T16:18:41Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > You can eat only foods that start with a vowel. So olives, artichokes, apples, oranges, aardvarks, etc. Excellent plan, but I need more detailed rules. Does “Another pasty” count? How about “One more samosa”? Failing that, Huel: [Huel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huel) j ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/26 "2019-01-15T16:29:48Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Vegie burgers have been around for quite a while, although from what I can tell, those guys are producing more meat-like flavor. However, the real next step is going to be vat-grown meat. “Yes, I’ll have the 14 oz strip steakoid cooked medium, please.” ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/27 "2019-01-15T16:55:25Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > My prediction is that this (the low carb / high protein / healthy fats diets) will continue to be the trend. I suppose you could call it a fad, but it seems to me that since 2001 when Dr. Atkins’s book was republished that this has been the go to diet, just packaged under different names. Whether it’s South Beach, paleo, keto, or any other recent ones, they’re basically all the same diet, with maybe a little wiggle room on what falls under the category of healthy fats. They are all basically low carb / high protein and healthy fats with fiber diets. They’ve been popular almost 20 years now, so it’s hard to call them a fad. Good point. From time to time a study will come out that seems to contradict a previously held (and over-simplified) notion about nutrition, (e.g., from “fats are the problem–any and all fats” to “maybe not all fats”). Then the media picks it up, and frames it as “Well, we had it all wrong!” Someone writes a book to capitalize on the this, and further frames it as a “new truth” about diet. The general public buys into this, and a lot of people adopt some new diet as their salvation, until another one comes long, and then people start to think that this is all just arbitrary trends (“food fads,” as per the OP), and anything might come next–it’s like fashion. In fact, these are really incrementally increased understandings of nutrition that are more like slight readjustments of a general direction. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/28 "2019-01-15T22:24:00Z")
One of my friends pointed out during the “grams of fat” craze that if your diet consists entirely of things that have the grams of fat printed on the side of the package, you are not eating healthy. She’s right. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/29 "2019-01-15T22:45:22Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > One of my friends pointed out during the “grams of fat” craze that if your diet consists entirely of things that have the grams of fat printed on the side of the package, you are not eating healthy. > > She’s right. This is one of the things that Pollan’s dictum “Eat food, mostly plants, not too much” was getting at with the “Eat food” part. Avoiding heavily processed foods was part of it, but also eating “normal” things, avoiding foods that are trying too hard to _represent_ themselves as something wonderful. For example, during the era when avoiding all fat was the misguided obsession, foods marketing themselves as low-fat starting adding huge amounts of sugar instead. I think the one thing to remember with nutrition is that it’s extremely difficult to do rigorous science, because we just can’t do the ideal experiments of making large controlled groups of humans stick to one specific diet consistently for decade-long studies. The best guidance is to avoid any kind of _extreme_ diet advice, whether it’s to eliminate things _entirely_ or to add _large_ amounts of purported superfoods. There is never enough rigorous evidence to support extreme diets, encompassing all the potential implications over long periods of time. To do things in moderation is not just laziness, it’s the rational approach. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/30 "2019-01-15T22:54:12Z")
All carbs-no protein. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/31 "2019-01-16T00:21:28Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Excellent plan, but I need more detailed rules. Does “Another pasty” count? How about “One more samosa”? > > Failing that, Huel: [Huel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huel) > > j Definitely advise against whatever diet [Huell](https://breakingbad.fandom.com/wiki/Huell_Babineaux) follows ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/32 "2019-01-16T06:33:53Z")
> [@Clark\_Cello](#): > > This one is not food related, but is nutrition related, and I am interested to see where it goes (if anywhere): > > [Is Sunscreen the New Margarine?](https://www.outsideonline.com/2380751/sunscreen-sun-exposure-skin-cancer-science) It’s not out of line with what my doctor has been telling me. He’s been saying for a while that sunlight has benefits beyond the SAD lights and vitamin D. Though he also argues that Vitamin D supplementation doesn’t work all that well without the addition of Vitamin K, and he still gives it out. He just argues that sunlight should also be used, and that sometimes that can reduce or eliminate the need for supplementation. The guideline they mention is also what my sister was always told with her skin issues, that she should go out, but avoid being burnt. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/33 "2019-01-16T15:15:29Z")
I do believe that stressing out over what you are going to eat every day will kill you a lot quicker than a bad diet. ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/34 "2019-01-16T16:16:38Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Failing that, Huel: [Huel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huel) > > j I haven’t heard of that before. It looks like the British version of Soylent. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/35 "2019-01-16T16:20:29Z")
> [@Hermitian](#): > > I haven’t heard of that before. It looks like the British version of Soylent. I have some. It tastes like the blandest oatmeal I’ve ever had. I add stevia and cinnamon. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/36 "2019-01-16T17:52:20Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > One of my friends pointed out during the “grams of fat” craze that if your diet consists entirely of things that have the grams of fat printed on the side of the package, you are not eating healthy. > > She’s right. Wow. That’s well put. Imma steal/borrow this. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/37 "2019-01-16T18:18:58Z")
Have we run out of miracle berries yet? I noticed the other day that my wife’s shampoo has acai berries in it. In the shampoo. I am looking forward to the no carb, low protein, high fat diet. It will consist chiefly of the skin off roasted turkey and the fatty lip off a prime rib roast. And of course, acai berries. Should I write a book? ---
**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/38 "2019-01-16T18:58:29Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > Excellent plan, but I need more detailed rules. Does “Another pasty” count? How about “One more samosa”? > > Failing that, Huel: [Huel - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huel) > > j I suspect you have to switch to empanadas. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/39 "2019-01-17T02:24:19Z")
> [@Dereknocue67](#): > > It may be ‘The High Quality All Chemical Diet’ manufactured and approved by the Dow Chemical Corp. and Exxon Mobil. Their slogan will be, “Hey, it’s cheap and good for ya!” Just like Mom used to make … of course she was a chemical engineer for Olin Chemicals [I can remember going to Ohio and hunting birds at an Olin Chemicals owned game farm …] ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701/40 "2019-01-17T14:57:58Z")
This morning, the news channels all seemed to be touting this story, which claims that we all need to go on a diet, not just to make ourselves healthier, but to SAVE THE PLANET!!! > **[A bit of meat, a lot of veg - the flexitarian diet to feed 10bn](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-46865204)** > > And you don't have to be vegan to follow the "planetary health diet". [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-the-next-nutritional-wisdom-or-big-food-fad/827701.md?page=3)