# What will be Wednesday’s headline {Poll added to OP} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 3, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623 "2024-11-03T19:03:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/61 "2024-11-04T02:19:19Z")
Trump Supporters Storm the Capital Cops Overwhelmed Air Force One Bombed Biden & Harris Escape: Safe ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/62 "2024-11-04T05:10:05Z")
Proud Boys heading to Pennsylvania and North Carolina to help with the vote count. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/63 "2024-11-04T06:33:23Z")
Clown Falls ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/64 "2024-11-04T06:40:58Z")
Trump Orders All Votes Hand-Counted by Loyal Men in All States: SCOTUS Give Approval (This is even if he wins. ) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/65 "2024-11-04T06:44:14Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Trump Orders All Votes Hand-Counted by Loyal Men in All States: SCOTUS Give Approval I feel like a broken record saying this, but if the Supreme Court was as in the bag for Trump as you suggest, he would still be president right now. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/66 "2024-11-04T06:47:00Z")
No. He doesn’t request loyal men last time. 😁 If he loses by a YUUUUGE margin: Trump Orders All Votes Hand-Counted by Loyal Men in All States: SCOTUS Give Approval 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/67 "2024-11-04T06:49:04Z")
“Pugsley To Be Beheaded, Lurch To Be Executioner.” Oh, you meant Wednesday, the day after Tuesday, and not Wednesday Addams. 😉 In that case, then, “Too Close to Call; Counting Continues in Battleground States.” Between mail-ins, early voting, drop boxes (and subsequent voting by voters whose ballots were destroyed in fires), and in-person voting, I think we’re going to have a few days at least before a definite winner can be declared. I think the best we’re going to get on Tuesday night is projections. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/68 "2024-11-04T06:52:54Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I think the best we’re going to get on Tuesday night is projections. I don’t recall any time in my life where the media “projected” a presidential winner incorrectly. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/69 "2024-11-04T07:06:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I feel like a broken record saying this, but if the Supreme Court was as in the bag for Trump as you suggest, he would still be president right now. Yes, exactly. The Supreme Court is stuck between a rock and a hard place: go against the guy who gave three of them their jobs and who values loyalty, or completely ignore 200+ years of jurisprudence that makes them twist precedents into pretzels in order to satisfy Trump’s wants and wishes. All the Supreme Court justices were lawyers first, and one of the things a lawyer must never do is to bring the system of justice into disrepute. And, they must uphold the Rule of Law—which, in is most basic form, means “No making stuff up to suit an agenda.” I think that no matter who appointed them, the Supreme Court justices have this in the back of their minds: that if they make a decision that brings the American system of justice into disrepute, or make a decision so outlandish that no precedent can support it, that they’re gone; no more Supreme Court seat, and no more law license besides. Trump, of course, doesn’t know this. I’m waiting for the time one of his matters goes to the Supreme Court, isn’t granted cert or just plain gets dismissed, and he wails, “But they owe me!” Words of a dictator who thinks he controls the courts. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/70 "2024-11-04T07:07:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I don’t recall any time in my life where the media “projected” a presidential winner incorrectly. Lacking anything definitive, I’ll take a projection anyday. Better than “we don’t know yet.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/71 "2024-11-04T07:08:55Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’m waiting for the time one of his matters goes to the Supreme Court, isn’t granted cert or just plain gets dismissed, and he wails, “But they owe me!” When it happened in 2020, his response was to whine about the concept of standing and claim that nobody had ever heard of it. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/72 "2024-11-04T07:14:19Z")
SCOTUS has nothing to fear from Trump, given that they serve for life and can only be removed via impeachment and conviction by 2/3 of Senate, and no Democrats would ever impeach a SCOTUS justice for issuing an anti-Trump ruling. Furthermore, SCOTUS has **already** repudiated Trump in 2020. The three judges who were nominated by Trump ALL ruled **against** him. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/73 "2024-11-04T12:21:49Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > But, they are not counted until after the polls are tallied in most states (I think In WI, we can’t put the absentee ballots through until Election Day… but we’re doing it all day, at the same time in-person voters are putting their ballots in the same machine. So far we’ve always finished the absentee processing before polls close, but in 2020 it was close (it would have been fine to take a little longer, but it’s nice to be able to shut down the machine soon after polls close). ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/74 "2024-11-04T15:25:56Z")
Harris wins. PA goes +1% to Harris, not the 10 000 or other small numbers that would demand a recount. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/75 "2024-11-04T15:52:11Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > The Supreme Court is stuck between a rock and a hard place: I think they’re in a rock and a hard place for a different reason. They aren’t beholden to Trump. They are, however, committed partisans despite not always ruling like committed partisans. They want to enact a conservative agenda. Plus some of them are getting paid to do so, which is totally legal, yaknow? However, this can only continue while they remain relevant. Blatantly flouting an election result would help their conservative goals in the short term, but make them powerless and irrelevant in the long term, because the Right would no longer need them for _anything_. They would even be able to suddenly reverse their stance, 1984-style, on any previously conservative issue and the justices still would be able to do nothing because they’d be rendered irrelevant. So their needle-threading is to be partisan but preserve their independence. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/76 "2024-11-04T16:13:37Z")
> [@dolphinboy](#): > > Too close to call. That was one of the choices. NITPICK: That was **TWO** of the choices in the OP. SERIOUSLY Still counting; Harris projected winner; Trump claims fraud but offers no evidence ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/77 "2024-11-04T16:30:13Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > However, this can only continue while they remain relevant. Blatantly flouting an election result would help their conservative goals in the short term, but make them powerless and irrelevant in the long term, because the Right would no longer need them for _anything_. They would even be able to suddenly reverse their stance, 1984-style, on any previously conservative issue and the justices still would be able to do nothing because they’d be rendered irrelevant. I see your point. But I’m not sure how much them installing trump renders them irrelevant to the US’s then guaranteed upcoming Fascist future. Maybe, some, but not really is my assessment. The most successful modern long term authoritarian governments do it while keeping the trappings of legalism and democracy. The courts and legal process exist. And are generally followed when nothing much is at stake. Pack the lower courts with partisan flunkies for judges and eventually the public learns that the courts are crooked when it matters politically. But you can keep that illusion going for decades before the fact it’s now illusory really sinks in. Of course them blatantly installing trump will outrage you and me and another hundred million people whose votes didn’t matter enough in 2024 and won’t matter at all in 2028. But none of that will reduce the incentive of a smart authoritarian system in keeping SCOTUS seemingly relevant. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/78 "2024-11-04T16:32:33Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Furthermore, SCOTUS has **already** repudiated Trump in 2020. The three judges who were nominated by Trump ALL ruled **against** him. I think what may be going through their minds NOW is: “This may be the last chance to establish permanent Christian Rule. And how much MORE money and power will we personally get if we back Trump now.” They are only human. And some of them are awful humans. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/79 "2024-11-04T16:32:44Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I don’t recall any time in my life where the media “projected” a presidential winner incorrectly. [You don’t recall 2000?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election#Results) > Blockquote > Between 7:50 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. EST on November 7, just before the polls closed in the largely Republican Florida panhandle, which is in the Central time zone, all major television news networks ([CNN](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN), [NBC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC), [FOX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News), [CBS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBS), and [ABC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_News_(United_States))) declared that Gore had won Florida. They based this prediction substantially on [exit polls](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit_poll). But in the vote, Bush began to take a wide lead early in Florida, and by 10 p.m. EST, the networks had retracted their predictions and placed Florida back in the “undecided” column. At approximately 2:30 a.m. on November 8, with 85% of the vote counted in Florida and Bush leading Gore by more than 100,000 votes, the networks declared that Bush had carried Florida and therefore been elected president. But most of the remaining votes to be counted in Florida were in three heavily Democratic counties—[Broward](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broward_County,_Florida), [Miami-Dade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County), and [Palm Beach](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Beach_County)—and as their votes were reported Gore began to gain on Bush. By 4:30 a.m., after all votes were counted, Gore had narrowed Bush’s margin to under 2,000 votes, and the networks retracted their declarations that Bush had won Florida and the presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-be-wednesday-s-headline-poll-added-to-op/1009623/80 "2024-11-04T16:34:54Z")
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