# What will happen if Trump actually gets the nomination? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 15, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935 "2015-08-15T18:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/21 "2015-08-16T09:31:42Z")
and yes while the Clintons are rich (but not billionaires), they do not try to show it off as Trump does. They did both also grow up middle class; Trump’s father was a double and triple digit millionaire, who made Donald. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/22 "2015-08-16T10:46:10Z")
Still, there are alternatives to Trump. Apart from the array of identically-suited numpties on the Republican aisle, and the vibrant alternatives to the hilarious ‘ **Old White Men are the Enemy** ’ article of belief ---- _Hillary, Nancy & Diane Speak for Youth !_ — on the more bewildered side; there’s also a new meme of **Clownpiece For President**. Clownpiece is one of the latest additions to Gensokyo, a blonde fairy dressed in American flag gear who is a votary of Hecate with the enviable gift of bestowing madness. **I Believe Clownpiece Is What America Needs** is the motto of her followers, as shown by [clownpieceforpresident](http://clownpieceforpresident.tumblr.com/). Admittedly Clownpiece is fictional, but are you sure Trump and some of the rest above aren’t also ? Amd she’s neither old nor male, which should garner her votes from those demented with identity [crisis] issues. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/23 "2015-08-16T13:29:38Z")
I’m a Pennsylvanian voter who voted for Obama in the last two presidential elections. Should I switch my registration to Democrat now in anticipation of casting a vote for Trump in the primary? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/24 "2015-08-16T18:51:09Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Oh really? Keep in mind that Bill Clinton will be in the White House wandering the halls with nothing to do. I have a feeling there won’t be many female interns in the White House. It’s not a problem if the interns can figure out how to put a bell on him. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/25 "2015-08-16T22:16:17Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > If T-Rump is nominated, expect a debacle not seen since Dukakis. Democrats win the House, Senate, and many governorships and state houses. The Republican Party splits into its Tea and Corporate halves. There will be dancing in the streets and the Dow breaks 30,000 by 2018. Suitable mountains will be scouted out for a new Mt Rushmore featuring the Clintons, Obama, and LBJ. Literally none of this will happen. > [@Chronos](#): > > General election polls put Trump at least ten points behind _every_ conceivable challenger, including the ones that nobody has ever heard of. And it’s not like he’s low on name recognition, so there’s no plausible way for him to make up a deficit that large. The only impact of Trump being the nominee would be that it would free up Democratic primary voters to “vote their conscience” without needing to worry about their preferred candidate’s electability. If Trump wins the nomination, then we’ll inaugurate President Sanders. This might happen. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/26 "2015-08-16T23:05:08Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > General election polls put Trump at least ten points behind _every_ conceivable challenger, including the ones that nobody has ever heard of. And it’s not like he’s low on name recognition, so there’s no plausible way for him to make up a deficit that large. The only impact of Trump being the nominee would be that it would free up Democratic primary voters to “vote their conscience” without needing to worry about their preferred candidate’s electability. If Trump wins the nomination, then we’ll inaugurate President Sanders. Where exactly are you getting these polls ? RealClearPolitics Fox News Poll 16/Aug/2015 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination FOX News Trump 25, Bush 9, Walker 6, Carson 12, Cruz 10, Rubio 4, Huckabee 6, Fiorina 5, Paul 3, Kasich 4, Christie 3, Perry 1, Santorum 1, Jindal 1, Graham 0 Trump +13 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination FOX News Clinton 49, Sanders 30, Biden 10, Webb 1, O’Malley 1, Chafee 0 Clinton +19 > **[Latest Polls 2024 | RealClearPolling](https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls)** > > Stay up to date on all the latest 2024 election and state of the union polls. Gain valuable insights into the evolving political landscape and stay ahead of the latest trends. \*David Paleologos discusses the Suffolk University poll showing Donald Trump still leads all Republican presidential candidates in Iowa. \* > **[New poll shows Trump still leads Iowa](https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2015/08/16/31811587/)** > > David Paleologos discusses the Suffolk University poll showing Donald Trump still leads all Republican presidential candidates in Iowa. Saturday, August 15 Donald Trump 17 % Jeb Bush 10 % Marco Rubio 10 % Scott Walker 9 % Carly Fiorina 9 % Ben Carson 8 % Ted Cruz 7 % Rand Paul 4 % Chris Christie 4 % John Kasich 4 % Mike Huckabee 3 % Bobby Jindal 1 % Rick Perry 1 % Rick Santorum 1 % Lindsey Graham 1 % George Pataki 0 % [http://townhall.com/polltracker/](http://townhall.com/polltracker/) Trump is in fact, contrary to your statement, far ahead of the rest of the GOP. Your first sentence is the opposite of reality. I assume you will say the contrary evidence somehow means your prediction is still supported by that evidence… Trump — Romney 2016 ! ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/27 "2015-08-16T23:13:23Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Where exactly are you getting these polls ? > > RealClearPolitics Fox News Poll 16/Aug/2015 > 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination FOX News Trump 25, Bush 9, Walker 6, Carson 12, Cruz 10, Rubio 4, Huckabee 6, Fiorina 5, Paul 3, Kasich 4, Christie 3, Perry 1, Santorum 1, Jindal 1, Graham 0 > > Trump +13 > > 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination FOX News Clinton 49, Sanders 30, Biden 10, Webb 1, O’Malley 1, Chafee 0 > > Clinton +19 > [Latest Polls 2024 | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/) > > \*David Paleologos discusses the Suffolk University poll showing Donald Trump still leads all Republican presidential candidates in Iowa. \* > > [New poll shows Trump still leads Iowa](http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2015/08/16/31811587/) > > Saturday, August 15 > > Donald Trump 17 % > Jeb Bush 10 % > Marco Rubio 10 % > Scott Walker 9 % > Carly Fiorina 9 % > Ben Carson 8 % > Ted Cruz 7 % > Rand Paul 4 % > Chris Christie 4 % > John Kasich 4 % > Mike Huckabee 3 % > Bobby Jindal 1 % > Rick Perry 1 % > Rick Santorum 1 % > Lindsey Graham 1 % > George Pataki 0 % > [http://townhall.com/polltracker/](http://townhall.com/polltracker/) > > Trump is in fact, contrary to your statement, far ahead of the rest of the GOP. Your first sentence is the opposite of reality. > > I assume you will say the contrary evidence somehow means your prediction is still supported by that evidence… > > Trump — Romney 2016 ! Btw, while Fox polls may be believable for GOP primaries, don’t think posting them on GE will carry any weight. Remember their 2012 Obama vs Romney scam polls? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/28 "2015-08-16T23:29:45Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Trump is in fact, contrary to your statement, far ahead of the rest of the GOP. Your first sentence is the opposite of reality. > > I assume you will say the contrary evidence somehow means your prediction is still supported by that evidence… I have to assume that you did not read carefully, **Chronos** was talking about the General election polls (not state ones or primaries) regarding Trump and conceivable **Democratic** opponents not Republican. I will have to say that they are Clinton and/or Sanders at this time. > **[2016 General Election Polls: Trump vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-clinton)** > > Explore poll data from the 2016 General Election, focusing on the Trump vs. Clinton matchup. Gain valuable insights into key trends and electoral dynamics with RealClearPolling. > **[2016 General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Polls | RealClearPolling](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2016/trump-vs-sanders)** > > Explore poll data on the 2016 General Election between Trump and Sanders. Gain insights into key trends and electoral dynamics with RealClearPolling. And yes, the aggregate shows that indeed the democrats right now are ahead of Trump by more than 10 points. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/29 "2015-08-16T23:41:03Z")
Trump is unelectable. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/30 "2015-08-17T00:12:43Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > Btw, while Fox polls may be believable for GOP primaries, don’t think posting them on GE will carry any weight. Remember their 2012 Obama vs Romney scam polls? Fox don’t love Trump that much. And all polls are unreliable. But most recent ones place Trump highly. > [@GIGObuster](#): > > I have to assume that you did not read carefully, **Chronos** was talking about the General election polls (not state ones or primaries) regarding Trump and conceivable **Democratic** opponents not Republican. I will have to say that they are Clinton and/or Sanders at this time. > > [2016 General Election Polls: Trump vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html) > > [2016 General Election: Trump vs. Sanders Polls | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html) > > And yes, the aggregate shows that indeed the democrats right now are ahead of Trump by more than 10 points. Those are general election polls, as indicated by the words _2016 Republican Presidential Nomination_ in the first. If Chronos was unclear, he stated: \*\*General election polls put Trump at least ten points behind every conceivable challenger, including the ones that nobody has ever heard of. \*\* Every challenger would be those for the GOP, whom Trump is trouncing. If E_very conceivable challenger_ is expanded to include the Democrats, then Trump is still **ahead** of Biden, Webb, O’Malley and Chaffee out of the 6 Democrats listed in the poll ( some of whom may not even declare ). Trump might probably beat Hillary, and may even beat Sanders; but he would beat Biden or O’Malley; and can beat the rest of the clown car without breaking sweat on current form. This will all change, and once the GOP has character-assassinated him as thoroughly as Hillary or Obama, he will probably have to stand down; however the current polls do _not_ put him ‘ **at least 10 points behind every conceivable challenger** ’ Trump — Romney 2016 ! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/31 "2015-08-17T00:25:31Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > If Chronos was unclear, he stated: \*\*General election polls put Trump at least ten points behind every conceivable challenger, including the ones that nobody has ever heard of. \*\* > Every challenger would be those for the GOP, whom Trump is trouncing. If E_very conceivable challenger_ is expanded to include the Democrats, Full stop, [you really are not even wrong.](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong) You are using a definition for “General Election” that no one is using, [https://www.google.com/search?q="General+Election"&gws\_rd=ssl#q="General+Election"+definition](https://www.google.com/search?q=%22General+Election%22&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22General+Election%22+definition) > [@](#): > > gen·er·al e·lec·tion > noun > noun: general election; plural noun: general elections > > ``` > a regular election of candidates for office, **as opposed to a primary election**. > > ``` It is indeed the exclusive territory (in the USA) of a Republican candidate vs a Democratic one. So yeah, **Chronos** was correct and you are not even getting the gist correctly. > [@](#): > > Trump — Romney 2016 ! It is so cute when Tea Partiers or reactionaries think that that is supposed to be scary; once again, the polls show why Democrats would be very happy to see that in the General Election against any Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/32 "2015-08-17T04:17:22Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > While Goldwater repped the future of the GOP, the Dems moved far away from McGovern, hence the period of 1992-now in which Dems are the dominant Presidential party, as things like welfare and crime were things McGovern, as well as Mondale/Dukakis got ripped on, that Clinton changed the Dems on. I don’t see the GOP becoming like the National Front or Danish People’s Party. I’d bet they just do what the Dems did in 1992, assuming they can find a nominee. Thats why Christie and Kasich were stupid as hell to get into 2016 instead of waiting it out to 2020. I bet on illegals, the GOP will create a unified platform of both blanket amnesty for people currently here, but build a wall, as a GOP Third Way, and make it national, as Dems did welfare reform in the 1990s and death penalty. By 2020, conservatives are all stripes, as Dems in 1992, will be so hungry for victory the ideologues will be shut up. The entrenchment of today’s Democrat and Republican parties are too strong for either a new party altogether (unless we get IRV) or an extreme shift in one. Hence why I said McGovern represented the party in a more “extreme form”-hence why none of the post-Goldwater Republican candidates until the younger Bush openly advocated for rolling back the New Deal as a Presidential candidate and even Bush II only supported Social Security privatization. While in certain aspects such as foreign policy, the Democratic Party of to-day is far from McGovernism, the core of the Democratic coalition is essentially the McGovern coalition of minorities and urban educated professionals. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/33 "2015-08-17T12:50:55Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Trump is unelectable. Please never utter these words again. You’re putting us all in terrible danger. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/34 "2015-08-17T13:04:52Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Trump is unelectable. Is he also unnominatable? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/35 "2015-08-17T13:17:23Z")
Bush, Kasich, and so on are not conceivable general election opponents to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/36 "2015-08-17T13:21:12Z")
Unless Trump goes third-party, which he has pointedly not promised not to do. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/37 "2015-08-17T13:22:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Unless Trump goes third-party, which he has pointedly not promised not to do. he’s not gonna go third party; he’s gonna probably keep atop the polls for now and try to win the nominating contests, by which more sore loser laws will probably come into place. He really thinks he can and will get the nomination. I think he probably will. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/38 "2015-08-17T13:37:10Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > independence from the big money interests I thought Trump was his own big-money interest. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/39 "2015-08-17T14:18:52Z")
It’s impossible for Trump to win the nomination. Trump may be the first choice of 25% of Republicans (Republicans are zany critters!) but he’s the 2nd or 3rd choice of much fewer. (If the pollsters asked “which of the candidates do you like _least_?” I’ll guess Trump would win that poll too.). At some point, if things get desperate, Walker or Bush will drop out throwing support to the other and “save” the party. I hope I’m wrong. I still think Sanders -vs- Trump in November would be the chance for America to come to terms with its political dysfunction in a grand catharsis. _Hey! Maybe it is possible. All Democrats should re-register as Republican and vote for Trump in the primaries! Please._ > [@TriPolar](#): > > If Trump gets the Republican nomination, as opposed to running third party, he has a fairly good chance of winning depending on his opponent, and the circumstances surrounding that opponent. :eek: Trump winning the general election is even more impossible(\*). (\* - Yes, I’m aware that _impossible_ is one of those adjectives that cannot a comparative marker. Sue me!) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935/40 "2015-08-17T14:24:44Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > (\* - Yes, I’m aware that _impossible_ is one of those adjectives that cannot a comparative marker. Sue me!) Yes, it’s one of the most unique words in the English language. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-if-trump-actually-gets-the-nomination/727935.md?page=3)