# What will happen when Glenn Beck finally goes nuts? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367 "2009-09-24T13:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/201 "2009-10-08T14:40:44Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Now this whole gold thing is pretty wierd, dont quite understand it. Its all over the place, gold coins, gold bullion, and Sleep Number beds. Anyway, gold: keep hearing from one side its the worst investment in the world, might as well buy beanie babies and 8-track tapes. But it has its fanatic devotees as well, I hear. WTF? Dunno. It’s like anything else. You’re crazy not to invest in real estate/stock market/gold/tulips because they are going up, and then one day you were crazy to think it would keep going up. Saw an interesting article that noted while gold is at an all time high in US dollars it is 30% below it’s top in Australian dollars and also below it’s top in Euros and several other currencies. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/202 "2009-10-08T20:49:09Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > But the whole “why hasn’t he denied raping and murdering a girl” thing bothers me. Public discourse would be more productive without him, but it’s wrong to tar someone with suggestions like that; wrong when he does it, wrong to do it to him. I think it’s absolutely fucking delicious that it’s being done to him, and for two reasons: 1. What is said about him has no impact in public discourse as it relates to the formation of public policy or voting patterns. It amounts to a prank. 2. The prank in question is exactly the same smear tactic he has used on actual public officials, repeatedly and unapologetically. Let him deal with the fallout. Actually three reasons. He is a loathesome person, and he actively and intentionally makes the world a worse place to be. Anything bad that happens to him – especially anything as glitteringly perfect as this fake rumor that everyone knows is fake – makes me smile. I hope bad things continue to happen to him. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/203 "2009-10-08T21:24:34Z")
I dream of him being smote. Like a super-deep voice from On High cries “Fuck you, Glen Beck!”, and he dissolves gurgling like that guy in _Lost Ark_. I would dash to the nearest house of worship, denomination irrelevent, to sing “Halleljuah” and “Hossanah”, and stuff like that there. That would be cool. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/204 "2009-10-08T21:43:55Z")
Anyone who can drive the moonbat liberals into this kind of blind, irrational rage has got to be doing something right. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to bring myself to watch the guy, but I will start supporting his sponsors. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/205 "2009-10-08T21:48:00Z")
Yeah, **elucidator** , calm down a little, will ya? You’re getting your blind irrational rage all over me. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/206 "2009-10-08T21:51:27Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Anyone who can drive the moonbat liberals into this kind of blind, irrational rage has got to be doing something right. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to bring myself to watch the guy, but I will start supporting his sponsors. So it doesn’t matter if he’s got his facts correct or not, so long as he’s pissing off the right people. Have I got that about right? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/207 "2009-10-08T21:54:49Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Anyone who can drive the moonbat liberals into this kind of blind, irrational rage has got to be doing something right. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to bring myself to watch the guy, but I will start supporting his sponsors. Anyone who can drive Beck and his army of gibbering nitwits into the hysterical, slobbering, inarticulate, teabagging, sign painting rage that Obama manages to inspire must be doing _everything_ right. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/208 "2009-10-08T22:02:51Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > So it doesn’t matter if he’s got his facts correct or not, so long as he’s pissing off the right people. > > Have I got that about right? What’s he been wrong about? I honestly don’t know; I don’t watch him. ---
**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/209 "2009-10-08T22:14:08Z")
Well, this one time, in 1990… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/210 "2009-10-08T22:16:34Z")
There was his imaginary “Communist wall” at Rockefeller center, for one thing. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/211 "2009-10-08T22:20:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There was his imaginary “Communist wall” at Rockefeller center, for one thing. Wow, that’s pretty bad. Does he have anything that might be the equivalent of Dan Rather’s infamous “George Bush AWOL” story that turned out to be completely false? Remember? It cost four CBS producers their jobs and resulted in Rather himself being quietly eased out to pasture. And recall: this was CBS _News_! Has Beck, a commentator, told any lies of that magnitude? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/212 "2009-10-08T22:28:35Z")
Actually, that story was true. And what the fuck does Dan Rather have to do with Glenn Beck being a nutcase and a liar? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/213 "2009-10-08T22:31:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Actually, that story was true. “Fake but accurate,” huh? I love it. So what has Beck lied about? I know he was right about ACORN and Van Jones. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/214 "2009-10-08T22:32:09Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Wow, that’s pretty bad. Does he have anything that might be the equivalent of Dan Rather’s infamous “George Bush AWOL” story that turned out to be completely false? Remember? It cost four CBS producers their jobs and resulted in Rather himself being quietly eased out to pasture. And recall: this was CBS _News_! Has Beck, a commentator, told any lies of that magnitude? [http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/27/dan\_rather\_suit/index.html](http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/27/dan_rather_suit/index.html) The story was true. The secretary(Carr) who shot down the paper work by saying she did not recall writing it ,also added the information on the memo was accurate. What lie are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/215 "2009-10-08T22:38:34Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/27/dan\_rather\_suit/index.html](http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/27/dan_rather_suit/index.html) > The story was true. The secretary(Carr) who shot down the paper work by saying she did not recall writing it ,also added the information on the memo was accurate. What lie are you talking about? Sure. A story so “true” that CBS News had to rely on phony documents to prove it. Please. If you _can_ prove it to be true (using authentic documents, of course) then Dan Rather will be your new best friend. (Also, you might want to re-read your comment; it makes absolutely no sense). Anyway, the question stands: what has Glenn Beck lied about? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/216 "2009-10-08T22:44:35Z")
The story WAs true. Move onto a different _tu quoque_. I already cited one thing which Glenn Beck completely made up. He went into elaborate detail about the Communist significance of a mural painted on the wall of Rockefeller Center. The only problem is that no such mural exists, or ever existed at Rockefeller Center. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/217 "2009-10-08T22:48:51Z")
Well, looks like **Stephe96** is just about to unleash his mastery of verbal jiu jitsu on y’all. Thread over, dudes, thread over. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/218 "2009-10-08T23:11:58Z")
> **[Yahoo Search - Web Search](https://search.yahoo.com/)** > > The search engine that helps you find exactly what you're looking for. Find the most relevant information, video, images, and answers from all across the Web. > [@](#): > > I’ll give you a sample, based on 10-15 mins of research. > > He said that no other President had never been sworn into office without a Bible. He said he ‘checked’. > He either did not check or checked up his arsegraped butt because he’s lying. John Qunicy Adams used a law book. Franklin Pierce didn’t even swear. He affirmed. Teddy Roosevelt used no Bible. Several Presidents kissed a Bible but did not swear on one. > > [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con…](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con%E2%80%A6) > [http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pinot…](http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/pihtml/pinot%E2%80%A6) > > Beck lie. > > Glenn Beck lied when he said recently that $1.4 million of stimulus money was used to repair a door at Dyess AFB. The doors repaired were aircraft hangar doors and the cost was not $1.4 million. > The cost was $246000 out of $1.4 million in repairs funding. > > Beck lie. > > Of course, we all know about him being called out as a liar by Whoopi and Barbara Walters. > > I only did a few minutes’ research, as I said…but it’s quite clear that Beck is exposed as a liar. > > In June Beck lied when he said that the US was the ONLY country that had a natural birthright provision. Here is the list of other countries that do: > [http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/…](http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/%E2%80%A6) > > Ooopsie doodle, Beck lie. > > Glenn Beck lied when he said that the director of White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, “has proposed forcing abortions and putting sterilants in the drinking water to control population.” > This one is so good I’ll just give you the link: > [http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/…](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/%E2%80%A6) > > … The guy is a screaming \*\*\*\*\*\*\* nutcase. That was posted 2 months ago. Enjoy, Stephe, though I don’t know why you couldn’t have done the same thing. Google is my friend. Your enemy, but them’s the breaks when you align yourself with the Forces of Darkness. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/219 "2009-10-08T23:57:31Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > [Yahoo Search - Web Search](http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090801235203AAgK2ig) > > That was posted 2 months ago. > > Enjoy, Stephe, though I don’t know why you couldn’t have done the same thing. Google is my friend. Your enemy, but them’s the breaks when you align yourself with the Forces of Darkness. Wow. Those examples are amazingly non-trivial. I’m guessing that’s the best you’ve got? (By the way, the link that is “so good,” alas, doesn’t work.) Nice copy-and-paste, though. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/220 "2009-10-09T00:09:14Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Anyway, the question stands: what has Glenn Beck lied about? I don’t think Beck is necessarily a liar, as much as a bullshitter, as defined by Harry Frankfurt in _On Bullshit_: > [@](#): > > [\*\*\*\*T]he fact about himself that the liar hides is that he is attempting to lead us away from a correct apprehension of reality; we are not to know that he wants us to believe something he supposes to be false. The fact about himself that the bullshitter hides, on the other hand, is that the truth-values of his statements are of no central interest to him; what we are not to understand is that his intention is neither to report the truth nor co conceal it. This does not mean that his speech is anarchically impulsive, but that the motive guiding and controlling it is unconcerned with how the things about which he speaks truly are. > > … > > His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and of the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says. He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly. He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose. > > … > > Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth are playing on opposite sides, so to speak, in the same game. Each responds to the facts as he understands them, although the response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The bullshitter ignores these demands altogether. He does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are. [The whole essay](http://web.archive.org/web/20040212054855/http://www.jelks.nu/misc/articles/bs.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367.md?page=12)