# What will happen when Glenn Beck finally goes nuts? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 24, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367 "2009-09-24T13:55:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/221 "2009-10-09T00:32:36Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > I don’t think Beck is necessarily a liar, as much as a bullshitter, as defined by Harry Frankfurt in _On Bullshit_: > [The whole essay](http://web.archive.org/web/20040212054855/http://www.jelks.nu/misc/articles/bs.html) He was right-on about ACORN and Van Jones, wasn’t he? But his errors don’t even come close to the level of, say, Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass or “Operation: Tailwind,” do they? (Look it up if you don’t happen to remember that particular CNN debacle). Judging from the hysteria of the moonbats on this board, you’d swear Beck was claiming that up is down and black is white each night on his show. ---
**Author:** ![BKReporter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@BKReporter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BKReporter)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/222 "2009-10-09T01:39:01Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > He was right-on about ACORN and Van Jones, wasn’t he? But his errors don’t even come close to the level of, say, Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass or “Operation: Tailwind,” do they? (Look it up if you don’t happen to remember that particular CNN debacle). Judging from the hysteria of the moonbats on this board, you’d swear Beck was claiming that up is down and black is white each night on his show. Unlike Beck, though, Stephen Glass and Jayson Blair no longer work for news organizations. And I presume many heads also rolled after Operation: Tailwind. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/223 "2009-10-09T01:50:01Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > He was right-on about ACORN and Van Jones, wasn’t he? But his errors don’t even come close to the level of, say, Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass or “Operation: Tailwind,” do they? (Look it up if you don’t happen to remember that particular CNN debacle). Judging from the hysteria of the moonbats on this board, you’d swear Beck was claiming that up is down and black is white each night on his show. Given that a just few posts ago, you announced that you were going to support the sponsors of someone you ‘can’t bear to watch’ yourself, simply because _apparently some anonymous mooks on a message board happen to bug you_, I’d be careful about throwing the term ‘moonbat’ around. But do tell: what was Beck right about concerning ACORN and Van Jones, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/224 "2009-10-09T02:11:01Z")
> [@BKReporter](#): > > Unlike Beck, though, Stephen Glass and Jayson Blair no longer work for news organizations. And I presume many heads also rolled after Operation: Tailwind. Heads also rolled after Dan Rather’s “Bush was AWOL” fiasco; still, plenty of libs will go to the grave insisting the story was true. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/225 "2009-10-09T02:11:22Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Wow. Those examples are amazingly non-trivial. How about lying about Global warming research and continuously seeding FUD against the science so people would continue to ignore warnings? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/khikoh3sJg8/maxresdefault.jpg "Birth of a Climate Crock") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khikoh3sJg8) Hannity is also a lying sack of crap. The text and lies are in this MediaMatters report just in case the video is not working: [http://mediamatters.org/research/200909240021](http://mediamatters.org/research/200909240021) > [@](#): > > Beck, Hannity falsely suggested Latif’s presentation damages case for action against climate change > > Beck: “[O]ne of the leading guys for the IPCC” has "just backed out and said, ‘I was wrong.’ " On his radio show, Beck falsely asserted that “the biggest guy they had to the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] has just backed out and said, ‘I was wrong.’ … This is the leading climate modeling guy for the IPCC.” Beck further claimed that Latif "has backed out now and said, ‘We were wrong. We’re going into 30 years of cooling right now.’ " Contributing editor Pat Gray added: “[H]e says that he’s conceded that the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade and that we are likely entering one or even two decades or more during which temperatures cool. I mean – and then you couple that with the sunspot report that you were just talking about, and it’s madness what they’re trying to shove down our throats.” Gray concluded: “And so, they know there’s very little time and they’ve got this Copenhagen thing coming up, and they thought they’d have it all wrapped up by now.” [Premiere Radio Networks’ The Glenn Beck Program, 9/22/09] > > Hannity: Ally in “global warming hysterical movement” “pulled the rug out.” On his radio program, Hannity stated that “one of Al Gore’s most prominent allies in this global warming hysterical movement has just pulled off – pulled the rug out from the former vice president and now says the world more likely faces decades of global cooling.” Citing Latif’s World Climate Conference presentation, Hannity said Latif “argued that the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade, and that we are likely entering one or even two decades during which temperatures actually cool.” Hannity later added: “The science is not unchallenged; it is challenged. And even leading environmental extremists that have been, you know – you know, sending out these dire warnings, they’re now contradicting themselves.” [Premiere Radio Networks’ and ABC Radio Networks’ The Sean Hannity Show, 9/22/09] What the climate researcher really said: > [@](#): > > Latif: “It may well happen that you enter a decade, or maybe even two … when the temperature cools … relative to the present level.” Latif stated that due to natural climate variability over the decade-long timescale, “it may well happen that you enter a decade, or maybe even two, you know, when the temperature cools, all right, relative to the present level.” Latif added: “And then, you know, I know what’s going to happen. You know, I will get, you know, millions of phone calls, you know – ‘What’s going on?’ ‘So is global warming disappearing, you know?’ ‘Have you lied on us, you know?’ So, and, therefore, this is the reason why we need to address this decadal prediction issue.” [UN World Climate Conference – 3, 8/31/09] > > Latif: Media mistakenly think of global warming as “a monotonic process,” in which “each year is warmer than the preceding year.” During his presentation, Latif stated: “All right, so, first point: Why decadal prediction? Now, people who know me, at least my German colleagues, know that I do a lot of media work, OK. There is almost no day in the year when I’m not called by some media person, OK. And so, they basically think about global warming as a kind of slowly evolving process and a monotonic process, OK – so each year is warmer than the preceding year.” He added: “However, we all know there is variability.” [UN World Climate Conference – 3, 8/31/09] ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/226 "2009-10-09T02:42:23Z")
And Beck’s ‘Liberal Fascism Hour’: Will be recorded in the history of Newspeak infamy: > **[Glenn Beck's 'Liberal Fascism Hour': Revising history as Newspeak](http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2009/04/glenn-becks-liberal-fascism-hour.html)** > > \-- by Dave Back early last year when I was busy critiquing Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism , the question came up frequently: Why would I b... Cue Stephanie Miller’s song against stinky liars: \*You’re a lying sack of crap You’re a lying sack of crap You’re a lying scheming, stinking, nasty sack of liquid crap! \* ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/227 "2009-10-09T02:54:05Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Heads also rolled after Dan Rather’s “Bush was AWOL” fiasco; still, plenty of libs will go to the grave insisting the story was true. From the Straight Dope: > **[Did George W. Bush go AWOL during his time in the National Guard?](https://www.straightdope.com/21343574/did-george-w-bush-go-awol-during-his-time-in-the-national-guard)** > [@](#): > > After the November election Bush returned to Texas, but apparently didn’t notify his old Texas guard unit for quite a while, if ever. The Boston Globe initially reported that he started putting in some serious duty time in May, June, and July of 1973 to make up for what he’d missed. But according to a later piece in the New Republic, there’s no evidence Bush did even that. Whatever the case, even though his superiors knew he’d blown off his duties, they never disciplined him. (No one’s ever been shot at dawn for missing a weekend guard drill, but policy at the time was to put shirkers on active duty.) Indeed, when Bush decided to go to business school at Harvard in the fall of 1973, he requested and got an honorable discharge — eight months before his service was scheduled to end. So, not a deserter, as very extreme enemies of Bush put it; but the AWOL tag fits Bush, in any case, not as serious an offense as it is now but his ass should had been hauled to Vietnam back in those days. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/228 "2009-10-09T03:31:23Z")
The Straight Dope article was from 2003. In 2004, more of Bush’s records were released. The Boston Globe was following the story (and was the one to first report on it back in 2000). [Feb. 10th, 2004](http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/02/10/bush_credited_for_guard_drills/) - “President Bush received credit for attending Air National Guard drills in the fall of 1972 and spring of 1973 – a period when his commanders have said he did not appear for duty at bases in Montgomery, Ala., and Houston – according to two new documents obtained by the Globe.” [Feb. 12th, 2004](http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/02/12/bushs_loss_of_flying_status_should_have_spurred_probe/) - “President Bush’s August 1972 suspension from flight status in the Texas Air National Guard – triggered by his failure to take a required annual flight physical – should have prompted an investigation by his commander, a written acknowledgement by Bush, and perhaps a written report to senior Air Force officials, according to Air Force regulations in effect at the time.” [Sept. 8th, 2004](http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/09/08/bush_fell_short_on_duty_at_guard/) - “Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation, a Globe reexamination of the records shows: Twice during his Guard service – first when he joined in May 1968, and again before he transferred out of his unit in mid-1973 to attend Harvard Business School – Bush signed documents pledging to meet training commitments or face a punitive call-up to active duty.” As far as I understand things, the last article there, which seems to have run the same day as CBS’s piece, relies on Bush’s official records, and is independent of the forged memos in the CBS report. I think there were some additional, juicier bits whose sole support was the forged memos (involving Bush being given preferential treatment, IIRC) but the basics of the AWOL claims are there and haven’t been debunked, as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/229 "2009-10-09T04:05:55Z")
We (that is, the board’s lefties) need to stop engaging the Dan Rather _tu quoques_. There’s no point. CBS committed some shitty journalism when they pushed that story. Even if the facts presented were mostly true, that’s no excuse. Heads rolled at CBS over it, as they should have. And right-wingers have been giving each other reacharounds over it ever since, using it to justify their side’s shitty journalism. Just don’t let it derail threads like this one. If **Stephe96** and his ilk want to defend Glenn Beck, they should be able to do it without whipping out their five-year-old scalp and waving it around. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/230 "2009-10-09T09:58:36Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > He was right-on about ACORN and Van Jones, wasn’t he? But his errors don’t even come close to the level of, say, Jayson Blair, Stephen Glass or “Operation: Tailwind,” do they? (Look it up if you don’t happen to remember that particular CNN debacle). Judging from the hysteria of the moonbats on this board, you’d swear Beck was claiming that up is down and black is white each night on his show. Busted clocks are right, twice a day. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/231 "2009-10-09T10:23:53Z")
Let’s not forget the “the president has a deep-seated hatred of white people” to “I’m not saying that he dislikes white people” flip flop within the space of thirty seconds. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/232 "2009-10-09T11:10:32Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > Busted clocks are right, twice a day. Ahem. Once again, right about what concerning ACORN and Van Jones? ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/233 "2009-10-09T11:18:50Z")
\*\*What will happen when Glenn Beck finally goes nuts? \*\* Based on the current news emanating from Oslo, I’d say we’ll find out very, very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/234 "2009-10-09T13:58:16Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Wow. Those examples are amazingly non-trivial. I’m guessing that’s the best you’ve got? (By the way, the link that is “so good,” alas, doesn’t work.) Nice copy-and-paste, though. That link should work better [here](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/), should it interest you. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/235 "2009-10-09T17:23:34Z")
The video link to the Katy Couric interview has been taken down by CBS. I wish I could have seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/236 "2009-10-09T17:32:15Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > \*\*What will happen when Glenn Beck finally goes nuts? \*\* > > Based on the current news emanating from Oslo, I’d say we’ll find out very, very soon. Are you referring to the Nobel Peace Prize and Obama or to the Oslo police report that they’ve yet to discover the girl’s remains? ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/237 "2009-10-09T17:52:34Z")
What’s happening in Oslo? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/238 "2009-10-09T17:56:46Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > What’s happening in Oslo? Lead story pretty much everywhere: Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/239 "2009-10-09T17:57:55Z")
There is some pining for the fjords. Oh, and the gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize out of no where. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367/240 "2009-10-09T18:00:35Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > There is some pining for the fjords. > > Oh, and the gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize out of no where. Many are saying the true winner was Marisa Tomei. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-will-happen-when-glenn-beck-finally-goes-nuts/511367.md?page=13)