# What woman in history do you dislike the most?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 7, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379 "2021-03-07T06:13:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
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Oprah Winfrey. 2nd biggest narcissist on the planet.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
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Eva Braun. How could she be intimate with that monster?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/23 "2021-03-07T17:03:28Z")

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Chances are, she knew nothing of the Holocaust, and power and fame have always made people attractive.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/24 "2021-03-07T17:09:25Z")

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Ilse Koch, the Witch of Buchenwald.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/25 "2021-03-07T19:49:13Z")

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Elizabeth Báthory does not seem like the sort of person I’d put on my “who you’d like to have dinner with” wishlist (although there does appear to be some debate over the accuracy of her biography):

> **[Elizabeth Báthory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory)**
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> Countess Elizabeth Báthory de Ecsed (Hungarian: Báthori Erzsébet, pronounced \[ˈbaːtori ˈɛrʒeːbɛt\]; Slovak: Alžbeta Bátoriová; 7 August 1560 – 21 August 1614) was a Hungarian noblewoman and alleged serial killer from the family of Báthory, who owned land in the Kingdom of Hungary (now Slovakia).
> Báthory and four of her servants were accused of torturing and killing hundreds of girls and women between 1590 and 1610. Her servants were put on trial...

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/26 "2021-03-07T20:04:01Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I agree with Mother Theresa, but for some variation I’ll throw in Imelda Marcos.

No matter what else there was about her, she will always be famous for the shoes.

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/27 "2021-03-07T20:12:02Z")

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Agree with the posters who said ‘Margaret Thatcher’. She, Reagan and Brian Mulroney in Canada did a lot of damage to western economic make up that lasts today particularly emboldened the wealthy to beat up on workers to become more wealthy.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/28 "2021-03-07T20:15:10Z")

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The dead are dead to me.

I’d probably turn my back on Melania and Meghan rn.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/29 "2021-03-07T20:21:37Z")

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> [@Filbert](#):
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> As a British working-class child of the 80s, I believe I’m contractually obliged to say Margaret Thatcher.
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> I’d like to throw in a dishonourable mention to [Pauline Hanson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauline_Hanson) as well- I’m not Australian, but I have some charmingly bigoted Aussie relatives who are supporters, leading to a lot of gritted teeth moments when I was staying with them.

As an Australian with British ties I fully endorse this pairing. But in the “sucky Aussies” category I’d also like to throw in Gina “[two bucks a day](https://www.smh.com.au/business/worlds-media-pan-rineharts-2-a-day-african-miner-comments-20120906-25fpq.html)” Reinhart, for privileged obliviousness of quite Trumpian levels.

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/30 "2021-03-07T21:06:28Z")

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Yeah, another for Thatcher.

I don’t know if this public reaction to her death is well known in the US, but it speaks volumes of her.

> **[Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead | Death of Margaret Thatcher](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ding-Dong!_The_Witch_Is_Dead#Death_of_Margaret_Thatcher)**
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> Following the death of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in 2013, a social media campaign, whose Facebook page had been set up in 2007, emerged among anti-Conservative activists to encourage sales of the song so that it would chart on the UK Singles Chart; the song reached #2 on the chart behind Duke Dumont and A\*M\*E's "Need U (100%)", and peaked atop the Scottish Singles Chart.
> Ruth Duccini and Jerry Maren, who portrayed Munchkins in the 1939 film, criticized the campaign, with Ma...

I can’t think, off the top of my head, of this sort of thing being attempted following the death of any other “regular” politician (so, excluding Mussolini and so on…) - let alone it being successful.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/31 "2021-03-07T21:14:07Z")

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I can’t think of any women in earlier history that I really dislike. Maybe I haven’t read enough, maybe women’s deeds weren’t so visible or documented.

That’s to explain why the only person I can really think of is Sarah Palin. She’s very recent but I think it will hold up. ISTM that she was the template for the bumptious, empty-headed right-wing firebrands that are ruining American politics right now. Idiots like Boebert, Greene, the capitol mob, and of course everyone named Trump.

History will look back on this as a pivotal moment thanks to all those awful people. Of course lots of factors went into teeing up this historical moment, but she seems like the most prototypical of them all.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/32 "2021-03-07T21:17:07Z")

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> [@RivkahChaya](#):
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> Phyllis Schlafly

If you ever get a genie wish, consider asking for Schlafly to be resurrected and granted immortality in her casket, preferably in ceaseless agonizing pain from the decomposition and embalming.

ETA: I should have mentioned, I came to say Schlafly too.

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/33 "2021-03-07T22:06:08Z")

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On a more personal level, I’d have to add Anita Bryant. She ruined quite a few lives.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/34 "2021-03-08T00:26:22Z")

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Boudicca is an excellent choice.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/35 "2021-03-08T00:31:15Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Elizabeth Báthory does not seem like the sort of person I’d put on my “who you’d like to have dinner with” wishlist (although there does appear to be some debate over the accuracy of her biography):

Ninja’d! I’ve lost sleep because of this woman.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/36 "2021-03-08T08:23:01Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Boudicca is an excellent choice.

Again to the question, why Boudicca?

Sorry, forgot to cast my vote. I know she’s not dead, but I’ll go with [Ann Widdecombe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Widdecombe). Won’t mean much to my US brethren, but trust me, she’s a beaut.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/37 "2021-03-08T09:59:48Z")

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What a missed opportunity for a revival of _Tramp The Dirt Down_ or _Margaret On The Guillotine_

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**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/38 "2021-03-08T10:01:46Z")

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Disagree about Maggie Thatcher. A mixed record, to be sure, but she did some good things. Above all, she was not a hypocrite, which why I agree that Mother Theresa is a possible candidate.

As for school milk - I loathed it.

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**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/39 "2021-03-08T10:03:15Z")

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Another “again to the question.” Why Boudicca? I know she is taken as the poster child for militant women, but hey, she did have a grievance against the Romans.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/40 "2021-03-08T10:03:33Z")

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> [@Brayne\_Ded](#):
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> Above all, she was not a hypocrite

Neither was Hitler. Your point?

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