# What woman in history do you dislike the most? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [March 7, 2021, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379 "2021-03-07T06:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/41 "2021-03-08T10:05:05Z")
Yes, Thatcher is the name that sprang immediately to my mind too. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/42 "2021-03-08T13:58:06Z")
Another one wondering why Boudicca. Since when has revolting against colonial occupiers been considered a bad thing? I grew up in the area and she was always portrayed pretty positively. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/43 "2021-03-08T14:06:00Z")
At this moment, Marjory Taylor Green. She seems to be a c- word just for the sake of being a c- word. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/44 "2021-03-08T14:11:01Z")
I’m pretty sure that she is severely mentally ill. Nobody can be in their right mind and believe 1/10 of the garbage she spits out. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/45 "2021-03-08T15:46:59Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > > [@RivkahChaya](#): > > > > Phyllis Schlafly > > If you ever get a genie wish, consider asking for Schlafly to be resurrected and granted immortality in her casket, preferably in ceaseless agonizing pain from the decomposition and embalming. > > ETA: I should have mentioned, I came to say Schlafly too. Heh. For no particularly relevant reason, one of my Facebook friends just posted this: [https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2016/09/06/phyllis-schlaflys-husband-finally-grants-her-permission-to-enter-hell-internet-rejoices](https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2016/09/06/phyllis-schlaflys-husband-finally-grants-her-permission-to-enter-hell-internet-rejoices) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/46 "2021-03-08T15:51:23Z")
What had her front and center in my mind was I was listening to the Stuff You Should Know Podcast, and they mentioned her. I think I prefer not thinking about her. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/47 "2021-03-08T17:18:44Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > Above all, she was not a hypocrite Looted public resources in order to funnel millions into the pockets of her cronies; called the poor “scroungers” for getting a pittance in benefits. Definitely a nasty little hypocrite. Outside the 20th century I’d probably go with Bathory if her reputation is remotely accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/48 "2021-03-08T17:57:11Z")
> [@bump](#): > > I’m pretty sure that she is severely mentally ill. Nobody can be in their right mind and believe 1/10 of the garbage she spits out. There’s a HUGE difference between being mentally ill and being an asshole who spews out hateful, irrational opinions at the drop of a hat. One can be both, but most assholes are not mentally ill. And vice versa. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/49 "2021-03-08T18:21:31Z")
Queen Mary I is right up there with Jezebel. I can’t think of any worse at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/50 "2021-03-08T23:51:01Z")
While that sounds like awful governance, I don’t see any hypocrisy there. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/51 "2021-03-08T23:53:50Z")
It wasn’t “awful governance”; it was outright corruption. And the hypocrisy is that she criticised poor people for living off the taxpayers while she and her friends funnelled vastly more taxpayer money into their own pockets. ---
**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/52 "2021-03-09T00:01:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > > > Above all, she was not a hypocrite > > Neither was Hitler. Your point? Um, because he felt Mother Theresa was? It was right in the post, after that sentence you quoted. Besides, this thread is about women. And Hitler was not a woman. So what was your point? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/53 "2021-03-09T00:08:03Z")
Yep. Elizabeth Báthory, she put the “Vamp” in vampire. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/54 "2021-03-09T00:11:59Z")
_An estimated 70,000–80,000 Romans and British were killed in the three cities by those following Boudica,[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-TAnn14.33-7) many by [torture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Historical_methods_of_execution_and_capital_punishment).[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-TAnn14.33-7)…Dio’s account gives more detail; that the noblest women were impaled on spikes and had their breasts cut off and sewn to their mouths, “to the accompaniment of sacrifices, banquets, and wanton behaviour” in sacred places, particularly the groves of Andraste._ Sure, she had a grievance and if she had just taken that out on the legions, that would have been just revenge. But she tortured and killed men, women and children, many of whom werent even romans. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/55 "2021-03-09T00:15:27Z")
You know, the Brits loved Thatcher when she was in office: _Having led the Conservative Party to victory in three consecutive general elections, twice in a landslide, she ranks among the most popular party leaders in British history in terms of votes cast for the winning party; over 40 million ballots were cast in total for the Conservatives under her leadership.[[381]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#cite_note-393)[[382]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#cite_note-394)[[383]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#cite_note-395) Her electoral successes were dubbed a “historic [hat trick](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hat_trick)” by the British press in 1987.[[384]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#cite_note-396)_ We hated trump too, but we got rid of him after one term, the Brits brought Thatcher back again and again. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/56 "2021-03-09T00:19:29Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > When it comes to history, one of my rules of thumb is “The Romans _always_ had it coming to them”. They were history’s biggest assholes. All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/57 "2021-03-09T00:28:47Z")
^ **Crucifixion?** ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/58 "2021-03-09T00:39:46Z")
The historical accuracy of those accounts is disputed. Mostly because no archaeological evidence has ever been found to which corroborate death and war at that scale during that time. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/59 "2021-03-09T00:46:47Z")
From that same wiki page: _Archaeology shows a thick red layer of burnt debris covering coins and pottery dating before AD 60 within the bounds of Roman Londinium;[[30]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-30) while Roman-era skulls found in the [Walbrook](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walbrook) in 2013 may have been victims of the rebels.[[31]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-31) Excavations in 1995 revealed that the destruction extended across the [River Thames](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames) to a suburb at the southern end of [London Bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge).[[32]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-32)_ Now however: The _[municipium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipium)_ of [Verulamium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verulamium) (modern [St Albans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Albans)) was next to be destroyed. Archeological evidence for this event is very limited. A major excavation by [Mortimer Wheeler](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortimer_Wheeler) and his wife Tessa in the early 1930s found little trace of it, perhaps because they are now known to have been working away from the area which was settled in the early Roman occupation. Another excavation by [Sheppard Frere](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheppard_Frere) between 1957 and 1961 revealed a row of shops alongside Watling Street which had been burned at around 60 AD, but the full extent of the destruction remains unclear.[[33]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica#cite_note-33) So yeah, plenty of evidence London was burned. Of course we dont have any solid evidence that those horrible things happened to her, either. So, if we accept she had a legit grievance, then we also have to accept she went over the line. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379/60 "2021-03-09T00:51:08Z")
Queen Isabella of Spain. Bigot. Fanatic. Egged-on the Inquisition. Slavery in the New World. Generally a jerk. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-woman-in-history-do-you-dislike-the-most/937379.md?page=4)